These are all currently BR5 assulter weapons,but their preformance is lacking compared to what you and your enemies can use.the 7mm kurz using guns have a ROF that just makes them too slow to keep up with all the other guns,like the PPSH and the federov,which have higher ROFs by quite a bit,which gives them significantly fast TTKs in comparison.The STG44 and MP43 solve this issue with having higher rates of fire to remain competitive,which again,these guns lack.The kiraly does have a high damage in comparison to other SMGs,but thats really the only thing going for it,and everything else is just not really as good compared to equivilants (such as amount of lead down range,damage,ect.).It would fit better at BR4 where the PPDs were moved.This should help bring a bit more variety to the battlefield and bring some incentive to playing BR4.
Some people here have been saying that they would like to see MKB as a BR5 trooper weapon instead, but I am asking what’s the point with that when FG exist…
MKB BR4 doesn’t seem super controversial to me, but if the devs aren’t sure about it, they could move the gold order MKB first and look for feedback.
Personally I dont see them all that powerful to begin with, their DPS is actually rather low, and since SMGs can “basically” all fight effectively at 50 - 100 meters distance, the range advantage over SMGs would start at … like… I would guess 40 meters?
Some might consider using semi autos at that range for BR4 instead.
“These assault rifles are lacking against BR IV-V Thompson’s”
Sure buddy, sure
How about these then?
Even if they were lowered,the slightly higher damage would be fine since the thompsons are a lot faster,around 200~250 RPM more then the weapons I suggested,so the thompsons have the higher TTK.I really dont care if the 50 round drum thompson is lowered to 4 to “balance it” or whatever.
lowering its fire rate or precision would make it a fair br4 weapon. same goes for the ppsh (it is already only br4 power level).
Well… people forget that damage is only a number and when the damage threshold isn’t reached, then a two hit kill is still a two hit kill - no matter what type of gun is shooting.
Thompsons, MKB, Kiraly, MP40 - they all kill/down with 2 shots against regular soldiers with vitality - the higher damage only really determines at what range a two hit kill turns into a 3 hit kill.
Thompsons have more DPS than MKBs, especially since the higher damage than other SMGs effectively “only” means that they are more effective at medium range. Sure Thompsons aren’t super easy to use and the slow bullet velocity means its harder to hit - but in theory a Thompsons can outperform a MKB.
lots of ammo, that’s all. Thompson is the worst weapon BR5
Eh. Still the StG wannabes are arguably better. Especially at mid range
Generally only in close range, and even then you still need to be objectively better than the Axis player
no. i hope that doesn’t happen. Assault rifles should be BR5 and this should not be discussed.
That’s the point of progression. going from worse to better. Why do you want to change that? Do you want to change that for all weapons?
There already is a BR2 MKB - just saying
Should I ask to transfer it to Br3?
You can, you are a free man.
My point however is that just because “its pretty much a assault rifle” doesn’t make it magically better than other weapons.
Or in other words, I think your argument makes no sense, MKB is completely outgunned in BR5 - which is what should really matter in this discussion.
20 rounds, RoF 400. Rare weapon for a gold order. It seems to me that the developers forgot about it or did not think about it. But what does it have to do with our topic? Nothing.
The point is that this is MKB is a BR5 weapon, but entry level. Later you will be able to use better weapons. This is called progression. Do you think this is not logical?
Let’s just remove the tech tree then, so that people can immediately open what they want. I’m not against
??? You claim every assault rifle needs to be BR5, not me.
Yes. Do you have a problem with that? In any case. MKB will remain in its place.
You are contradicting yourself
no, I don’t contradict.
MKB can move by its stats to BR4 - you disagree completely only because of its weapon class, saying performance doesn’t matter, what matters is that its an assault rifle and as such needs to stay in BR5 - while you make the exception for the BR2 MKB.
I make an exception? Where? It was the developer who made the exception to keep this weapon on BR2. What does this have to do with me?