Lower BR the submachine guns USA and USSR

USA

  1. M1 Thompson - 3 BR

  2. M21/28 Thompson - 3 BR

  3. M1928A1 Thompson 50 - 4 BR

  4. Lanchester model 1 - 2 BR

  5. M2A1 Carbine - 4 BR

USSR

  1. PPD 34/38 - 3 BR

  2. PPD 1929 - 3 BR

  3. M21/28 Thompson - 3 BR

  4. PPSH 41 - 4 BR

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I approve

Why? It is excellent smg for BR5.

PPSh drum guerillas are pure cancer (don’t ask me how do I know), you don’t want them to bully BR3.

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Nah the ppd bramit is where it’s at. So I agree with the ppSh being down tiered along with the ppd40 and ppsh45

but on the other hand, when they ask to lower the MKB 42 to 4, it will not be a nightmare for 3 br…

Agreed, also the premium Suomi should be knocked down to 4

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Definitely not for Soviets with their PPSH boxes. xD

And if we are taking about PPSH, we’re talking about mp717 and KP as well. So it’s not like Soviets would be spared of this cancer.

I find quite bizzare that many of these very good 71 rounds drum smgs were already on BR4. Even though there’s very little difference between them.

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In general, it is worth lowering all the submachine guns of the game from 5 to 4
for balance universe

dude.
The only advantages of the PPSH are the rate of fire and the drum, the rest of the characteristics are left to do better.

I concur since I see drum mag smgs besides the condors shpitalney and 100 round tommies as an introduction to br5’s rifles, long’s and heavy tanks.

Yeah, BR4 LAD or PPSH 1940 is great for balance.

I say downtier only the base TT drum mag smg’s (including prohibition) and the mkb42 to 4

PPSH is not AR, it can be used by many classes other than assaulter/medics.

But I understand you don’t even bother to include something like that into your “balance”.

naturally balanced)
Lad This is a degraded pps that saves 150 rounds.
PPS as previously stated, it has Plus, all submachine guns are 90% out of the game.
Giving preference to AC or AF

The limited usage is also the reason why it won’t break the balance.

You can also add cuirasses here :joy::joy::joy:

Dunno.
PPSh45 is BR4 and the differences are marginal, I also dont buy the BP limitations as reason because that would be P2W and would also open gate to lower other BP guns’ BR.
The PPD and the PPSh also have barely any difference beyond 100 rof.

1 - Agree.
2 - Only if they move down the Mkb42(h) to 4 or give it its bayonet.
3 - Sure.

1 - No.
2 - Sure.
3 - Only if they move down the Mkb42(h) to 4 or give it its bayonet.
4 - Only if they move down the Mkb42(h) to 4 or give it its bayonet and buff the Berettas.

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Well, as I wrote :joy:MKB is different

And nothing for most underpowered nation on earth called German. Why does two most op nations need to get even bigger buff huh?