Limited BR exception

[Conscript_Joe]

@Valkay

would post a Willy Wonka face, but I feel like I need to ask for permission from a certain someone first

Granted!

[Bigote0070]

kiraly, mkb and pervitin led me to have a higher % of victories with the axis compared to the allies

[Conscript_Joe]

Pervitin™
Ask your reichdoktor.

(Not recommended when pregnant)

[Greyparrots]

@Conscript_Joe

Are you for real? Grab your Kiraly or your mkb, take your Pervitin and charge. No more complaints. (The beretta 20 is a thing of the past)

I’m not there yet I’m still stuck with that stupid weapon

[AdRock2621]

@Greyparrots

It does not make sense that the Germans do not have a belt fed MG

Bro you’re literally holding a belt fed MG…

[Greyparrots]

Yes but it doesn’t have 100 rounds unlike the Allies one which you can actually see which doesn’t even really have all that much of a belt they could have given that thing maybe 75 rounds or 50 but no they gave them 100 while Germans are struggling to put that together.

[AdRock2621]

@Greyparrots

Yes but it doesn’t have 100 rounds unlike the Allies one

Doesn’t mean it’s not a belt fed MG. And there’s no 100 round drum for them. It’s only 50 and 75, and 50 and 250 round belts, which no MG has or needs that many in this game.

@Greyparrots

have given that thing maybe 75 rounds or 50

Nope. The A6 only got 100 and 250 round belts.

@Greyparrots

but no they gave them 100 while Germans are struggling to put that together

Struggling? Yeah, right. The Germans get their belt fed MGs far earlier in the campaign (and still will in the tech tree) while the Allies have to grind out the entire campaign. The BARs are very good, but they do not have the firepower or firerate of the MG34/42s.

So in summary, if you think mag capacity is all that matters, you are going to have a very hard time.

[Conscript_Joe]

What stupid weapon.

2 days ago I somehow dominated in Berlin (a match where BOTH sides were humans trying hard) and I used my surplus mp35. You got that too in Moscow.

If I can dominate in BERLIN of all places, with mp35, you can do it in Moscow easy peasy.

[Greyparrots]

I don’t use that weapon I’m struggling until I can get the kiraly and I’m rationing my orders.

[Greyparrots]

I want the 100 rounds mostly for Berlin because this game is about killing bots not players sure you kill the players but you wanna kill that bot first because they don’t defend themselves as well as the players do especially when all equipped with fedorov or knockoff STG.

[gastanofrizzi]

@Conscript_Joe

mp35

Mp35 is a good gun is much better than any axis smg outiside the kiraly

[Conscript_Joe]

Right?

It punches a lil harder than other 9mm smgs. It got slightly better rof. It’s stable and accurate.

It was my main automatic work horse when I first maxed Moscow (when beretta 20 was last unlock).

Always served me well. I think ppl disliked it because of the side magazine.

Edit:
Come to think of it, I first maxed Berlin with mp35 as well… until beretta 40. Looking back, mp35 is really a fantastic smg…

Because yes, @Greyparrots . Back then “we” (lololol why do you keep mentioning axis as “we”) did not have mkb, mp43 or the Danuvia. And Soviets did have ppd40. And yet. “We” (trolololol!!!) Managed just fine…

[Adamnpee]

I like zk 383 more.

[AdRock2621]

@Greyparrots

I want the 100 rounds

As I explained. Doing that will require inventing a magazine/belt that never existed.

Also, they don’t need it. MGs are not the end all be all. Pretty soon you can take the MP717, Kiraly (a 40 round SMG with zero recoil) and three paratrooper squads to any map you want. Let’s not pretend like the Axis don’t have any good toys.

@Greyparrots

the players do especially when all equipped with fedorov or knockoff STG.

So show them what a real STG feels like then.

[xaos]

@Valkay

Many players are concerned that they will have limited access to their favourite gun, most common are Soviet mains who are worried that having a single PPSh-41 smg in their line up would place them in the highest BR.

Exactly what issue i am talking about here!!
Have a look: (& fun reading for a while)

Suggestions for upcoming battle rating matchmaking to keep variety in the game & rant about Enlisted's problems

My latest revision of the general, variety oriented (without screwing everyone but the top tier spam) BR matchmaking system: Restrict the use of theese Higher BR that the battle’s average by a point system that’s meeded to spawn again your good squads, restricting you into playing your “bad” (or at worst “cannon fodder”) squads to get the points to respawn again the better ones. (outright dont allow them to just cycle their best 3 squads) Score system similar to @VoyoMayPL 's idea. Punish…

Has the same goals as here, just different implementation.

@Valkay

This would give a little more flexibility to players and a little more variety to the armoury used.

Yep

@Valkay

Testing a newly unlocked gun wouldn´t result in up tiering.

It should, by just a bit but not nothing.

@Valkay

Gold order weapons would obviously be huge winners of this, new players would be also be interested in buying the BP for these weapons which is very good for the game´s economy

It yould keep them valuable to everyone, otherwise they yould only be useful for top tier players that already have similar gear, tanking their value (and the BP yould not be as interesting)

@Valkay

A limit on BR range so you cant take an AS-44 or G43Kurz to BR1

Yes, you should be plased between BR1 and the BR of the AS-44 (close to BR1 if there is only 1 AS-44)
(or any other high tier weapon).

@Valkay

This shouldn´t apply to tanks and aircraft!

It should, but with WAY more limitations, like a hard cap on the amount of BR brackets that you can lower said vehicle [for example you should never be able to downtier a Tiger II H low enough that it can spend whole matches without encountering a single Bazooka (having it camp at spawn is another issue, but a map one)]

[VoyoMayPL]

@AdRock2621

and 50 and 250 round belts

Actually… german belts are made of smaller 50 round belts linked together. So you can have 50, 100, 150, 200, 250 round belts (I haven’t found mentions of anything longer). Combines advantages (and disadvantages) of desintegrating and nondesintegrating belts. Quite a neat design in various aspects.

Also yes, they are needed (though nor for balance).

[AdRock2621]

Interesting, I didn’t know that. I mean obviously you can make a belt any length you want but I thought that were the only options for standard issue

[Valkay]

Thank you! Now I have W pic pass.

[Valkay]

Even Red Orchestra 2 had 100 round belt fed MG42 and that is the most realistic world war 2 game (simulator) to date.

[Myrm1don]

@Valkay

hich would apply to only 1 or 2 guns, the gun´s BR wouldn´t affect the overall BR of the lineup.

Im thinking Golder order guns might get this treatment, I hope so.

also I was doing some theory crafting about how BR could work, and there are ways to protect players from equipment but also to not have it all behind end tier.