So, they give you the ability to test out squads before purchasing them. Any decision you make with your money , should be done when you know exactly what you are buying.
If you did not take the squad out to test (and there is a nice big icon that says try out squad) then the fault is on the buyer.
Every premium anything I have purchased, I have tried out first.
If you don’t like it, than don’t buy it.
Dev teams on games have a multitude of high priority and lower priority things they need to devote resources to. As well, being a beta , there is a lot they put out into the world to gather statistical information on and tweak. For them, it was probably a multitude of excersises and fact finding with not as much devoted to fine tuning specifics.
We have Semi Autos that since day 1 have not reloaded correctly. But that is low priority. They are focusing on gameplay and QoL first and foremost. Little stuff like this sits on the back burner for a long time, and Darkflow is far from the first company to do this, and won’t be the last either.
It may bother you, but like me when I post , we are small fish in a big pond that will hardly get noticed right now unless we discover something game/balance breaking.
And I the 'historical accuracy ’ thing you should know by now is not even a guideline for them. We have items in all campaigns that don’t belong. We have vehicles without proper historical loadouts. There is a multitude of stuff that playing this game at all should have told you what you were actually getting yourself into.
Enjoy the game, and like me just paitently wait for them to hopefully get around to the details.
This does not excuse the oversight. It’s still an oversight, and a pretty glaring one at that. Just because you paid for it does not make it less of an oversight in principle.
My point was there are a lot of oversights, the game is not in release form and there is so much work to be done.
This gun is far from the first that needs rework. That much was stated by other members as well.
I’ve been on the Dev side of game development, and know what it’s like when you are working a project of this scope.
It will be fixed, but it will all get fixed at a point when DF devotes some resources to a weapon / graphic QoL pass and not before.
The fine print of all these electronic transactions is worth a read.
If either you or the OP would have taken sometime to read anything Keofox posts , you would see there is a specific place to put requests, and that like most Dev teams they don’t care to acknowledge posts that take shots at their team and the work they do.
Not that I am 100% certain, but I’d say 2 to 1 odds this squad in particular was introduced into the game to 1) Gauge interest in sales of Premium squads that do not confom to the standard premium squad model 2) determine balance of said squads in a live play environment.
I’ve done #2 myself countless times for other titles.
I’m not discounting the need to have it fixed.
I’m saying that it is not a priority target for the team at this time.
I am not asking it to be a priority target,
YOU are making it look like i am asking it to be a priority, this is false, STOP that!
And sure lot of oversights, the game is not in release (Beta),
but but i already did explain that apart from being a Beta, work and effort is put into premium squads (not to mention the price, what you can see as a fixed donation) and since there is no guarantee that they keep offering the squad.
And can/or will remove it just like the Chauchat & German squad for whatever not mentioned reason is bothering me, because if it is no longer sold it will be thrown in the trash and probably never looked back at.
Therefore they will never going to update or fix/make an animation for such guns (Lewis gun pan),
thats why i wand their attention, just a simple reply that they have seen/noticed is good to go for me.
Now i got you point on being in the dev side, but on the same time they spent as much time on selling and making premium squads for money if it’s for gold or direct pay, it is just as much a part of the there work just as spending time fixing bug’s or finishing the game.
You are obviously take what I am saying personal.
I am not doing either of the things you state, but that is not how you see it so there is little I can do to change that mindset.
I am merely stating how it is , because I have been on both sides of the fence so I tend to look at game and design decisions objectively.
I’ve also explained how best to reach out to their team about your concern.
By calling them ‘poor’ etc for releasing it as is , is like an auto ignore for a lot of those team members that browse the forums to gauge player reaction and wants/needs.
Formulate a clear concise post without taking passive aggressive shots at the Dev team and it might get a response.
I’ve gotten a few from them already, and it’s the best route to go IMO.
Given the fact that reload animations, and some animations have not worked correctly for as long S they have should give an indication to the priority they have on such an issue.
Its a sad truth, but a truth nonetheless.
And while they may add new and unique features like the cosmetics of the troops, it is highly likely that the team doing that and the team doing animations are two separate sets, which is why one gets done, and the other not.
On the passive aggressive word choices is indeed a regrettable thing on my end.
Its on the time and moment of writing it, i had nor the time nor putting good thought on word choices to properly address the issue.
But i cant chance what i have written (Re-editing the post) so we/ I have to accept it as it is now.
if i could i would have made it more a clear concise post.
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Can you sent me a link on where to go to bring it under their attention/ and or help me with the build of proper sentences?
I cant do much on this topic any more, but i really want to bring this under there attention. (proper)
PS:
I did take some things you said personal, yes i did indeed, i won’t deny it.
I genuinely did feel attacked by you is some of your statements, i sensed a undermining tone, what let to the point where we are now. (Regrettably)
Like i am telling you in the above, i am willing to move this on properly.
Thank you, I was not personally attacking. I was merely talking, thr problem with the internet is we assume the worst in a post because we cannot hear the tone of the others voice to bring clarity.
I will do better at trying to word my responses accordingly so there is less misunderstanding.
The main link for things would be here.
I think Keofox reads it often. As well if you put @ and then Keofox it will give him a propt when he logs in and he can view your post.
The beast way to word it is simple and concise.
“Keofox, I have noticed that the drum magazine on the Lewis gun does not rotate when fired. Can you advise if this is something that will eventually be addressed? Thank you.”
I didn’t see that it was taking shots, and I don’t know who Keofox is, but I think if the OP wasn’t treated like he was asking for too much or being “unfair” to the devs for pointing something out that, upon reflection, is rather obvious, he wouldn’t felt so under attack. He’s right when he points out how a great deal of attention is paid to other, less significant elements like different gloves for certain squads and the look of ammo pouches in different nations etc., when this is something rather glaring that you have to actually look at while you play. If there was an indication that this was a known shortcoming and was something that would be addressed, rather than “how dare you complain about something not appearing properly that’s premium and costs money, and you can test it afterall!” then maybe it wouldn’t have evolved into a 30+ post back-and-forth.
And I’m not sure, is there a reason it should be assumed or expected that I read Keofox? I rarely come onto these forums. Regardless of what he writes, this is still an obvious lacking in visual functionality that’s worthy of being mentioned. That’s what the suggestion category is literally for. Did this Keofox character already say it was under review or slated to be remedied or something? I don’t see how it’s relevant otherwise, and sounds like you’re insulting our intelligence, though I’ve seen your other comments elsewhere and would like to believe that’s not the case. It’s like “stupid, lazy noob forum commentator, did you not read the latest KEOFOX manifesto” or something, lol
… I’d say 2 to 1 odds this squad in particular was introduced into the game to 1) Gauge interest in sales of Premium squads that do not confom to the standard premium squad model 2) determine balance of said squads in a live play environment.
And I mean regardless of that ^, there are other guns which aren’t premium which had a similar functionality in real life, and whose drums also don’t spin, as mentioned by RazorFeather and chaos3245.
And therein lies thr problem of trying to help people on here.
If someone like myself takes time out to detail why something is the way it is, its deemed a personal attack or insulting the intelligence of said member when that is far from the case.
I was merely trying to temper expectations on what is priority for the dev team and what is not.
Even I stated that animations have been broken since day one on stuff, so that obviously gives some sort of precedence to what will get worked on before something else.
As well, visual skins on soldiers and animations as also previously stated will probably end up being two different depts. Or the same but given goals that need to be done in a set timeliness that these animations right now don’t fit.
You may not read the forums but there is a hot link on all the major patch notes that leads to the same place that devs check. I was trying to help direct this concern to a place where it might be readily viewed and addressed.
It might not seem like it was passive aggressive, but you only see it from your perspective.
I’ve been on the other side for years. When you see things like ‘poor’ and ‘fixed fast’ its like a flag that a lot of Devs will auto ignore.
Things like this will be released time and again because that is how they both fund the game, and test new concepts and balance.
We had been clamoring for non standard premium squads for sometime now, and we got them in this (though they went too far IMO but thats a topic for another day).
End of the day, I was trying to help. In a clear concise way by explaining what I know, what I can infer, and what I’ve experienced.
But I guess this is proof that it’s better to let some things just go instead of trying to assist.
Noted.
The Lewis Gun for Moscow Allies squad consists of five soldiers, all equip with Lewis Guns, with one being an Engineer. The gun itself is extremely powerful and is comparable to a DP-27. It has a good fire rate, 47-round magazines, and excellent hitting power. This makes it perfect for getting rid of a large amount of Germans with an exceptional rate.
The only issue that I have had with the Lewis Gun is that i noticed that the drum magazine on the Lewis gun does not rotate when fired.
The squad is extremely good, and one of the best premium squads in the game for what it’s worth, but it comes with a steep price of 50 USD. Overall, the Lewis Gun is an absolute joy to use, but I cannot recommend this squad unless it comes on sale due to its extreme price tag.
The main question is now how long before they remove the squad and never look back.
No matter the reason they can remove it by the end of this year (like chauchat bundle) it wil get a minor or good discount in the summer sale/event.
And than it wil get a good sale on xmass with the announcement its gone be removed (last chance buyer’s trigger) with finally the ability to buy them separate if desired so.
(this did happen to bundle 's in the past)
Disclaimer:The above is a speculation, there is no solid info nor proof that this is gonna happen
Your assist,
Its only in you last post that your did chance your tone and came to understand that your approaches were taken personal (By Me), because it was written in a manner that was not deemed assisting but more scolding/ lecturing. (so i did experience it)
But you did address this somewhat yourself already in the reply to “TheShooterSapien”
As for “TheShooterSapien” his reply, its in both your statements that i can see the point to the problem, you both can disagree to each other on this, but say your both right!
You can disagree on me for that, but than let we agree to disagree on that matter!
