Let's talk about the future of the Rider class

That’s… The entire point of the thread.

Missing an arm and a leg and claiming you can still play a game of tennis is not the same as being a person with a complete set of limbs playing in a tennis competition.

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This reminds me of what happened to Rocket Tank

I don’t think they’re working. They’re desperately underperforming. I think theirs spawn point should be at similar distance to infantry at least. Otherwise it’s just wasting time. They’re not even good as shock troopers.

is it really though?

i hardly doubt that

someone that would remotely upgrade bikes wouldn’t even consider such an option.

which, you haven’t really provided a suggestion your self.

yet, you call out balance if the same members with more than one vehicle would end up with more automatic weapons.

by the way, the rider gets only 2 automatic weapons no matter what.

even the premium one despite having 3 soldiers still only has 2 smgs

if, they would get a truck, / car / halftrack whatever, the rest would be pretty much just regular riflemen or what not.

so, in terms of solutions, don’t fix what ain’t broken.

and once again, the whole point of the squad is to be fast.

the rest, it’s up to you.

hope we’ll get medics as an option in the merge now that i can think of.

beside that, don’t see how you could improve them outside giving them a third member with the premium squads.

but that’s a land mine of it’s own.

they work alright.

if… you know how to use them.

just like using an stg.

sure, it’s a good weapon, but in the wrong hands, won’t really do much.

Depends on future BR. I think it takes way too big effort to use them efficiently currently. But it’s definitely satisfying when being successful with them.

Specific to the class itself? I’m in favor of getting rid of it.

There are ways to implement motorized troops without involving this class specifically.

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While I am in favor of its removal, I do not see it as the only solution, which is why I’m bringing this up for discussion in the first place.

You know, by being an active participant in the discussion and discussing the pros and cons of all of the many ideas going around instead of going “Aaaaah no. Skill issue.” and “A bad workman always blames his tools” and then finally going “No u”- Oh, but not before also going “but they aren’t really supposed to be top notch.”

Please make a consistent argument instead of disagreeing with whoever replies to your nonsense, and then coming back again and shamelessly assuming exactly the point they make afterwards.

that’s simply dumb.

which ain’t gonna happen anyway.

and… i suppose you came late to the party.

countless of suggestions have already been made about it.

i suppose you just wanted to post your cents + prove that you don’t know how to use them.

clearly the opposite.

improving something doesn’t involve ( nor should ) it’s removal.

perhaps yeah, you should accept the fact that you are bad at using a simple bike. and not everything evolves around you / made to be used by you.

or suits you at all.

if we would start removing all the stuff that someone somewhere can’t use, or can’t figure out a solution to it to begin with, trust me. we wouldn’t have a game.

bold statement from someone who struggles to use a bike in a videogame.

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consisted arguments have been made. you just don’t want to accept them as they don’t allign with your own " haha bikes bad "

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Ad hominem.

Classic.

here:

you’ll need it.

The premoid has 3 soldiers.

And it’s like paras, kinda amazing to make a rally on the flanks.

But , I understand why they aint as present,is kinda hard for a f2p to change a inf squad on 3 slots avaiable for a bike.

For a premium player, is a non Brainer to have on lineup

I do wonder if the approach hng had, like, spawn on friendly vehicles for a certain time would work on enlisted… Maybe apc would make sence then

But it’s faaaaaast!

Fair points in this post tho

It should be given a second motorcycle.

That… Doesn’t fix the class. That just adds a tiny bit of variety.

Hum, guess I am closer to get my Panzergrenadiers and Sturmzug with a Halftrack, is that broken? Maybe, but then what part of the game balance isn’t broken?

While true, I’m not in favor of recklessly adding things without much thought. The goal is to make the proverbial slippery slope level.