Lets rebalance the Thompson line up

Don’t forget that they’re all varying degrees of ass outside of the M1A1 and the premium ones
The 50 round drum was such an utter fucking disappointment that I’m still in absolute awe

And no dear god do not ruin the M1A1 to be BR2 when that’s arguably the most usable one of all of them

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The.30 is the better Thompson hands down

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Maybe move it to br2?

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I’m of a similar mind here; at least add a some STEN variations;


I’d honestly rather they spend an effort “reshuffling/reclassifying” things to be around the M2 Carbine in the rifleman role; really BRV is a hard place to make them work without resorting to things like making the FG-42 a “battle rifle” when it was pretty clearly concieved/issued originally as a MG or Automatic rifle in the vein of the M1941 Johnson. (the FG42 had a much more sane magazine than the Johnson’s long floppy single stack 20 rounder)
-That said, Tier V is just playing with fire when it comes to ‘riflemen’, so much so that it seems that there are “No Good Options”, which includes “have nothing” as an option.

Then why did they name it Fallschirmjäger Gewehr and not Maschinengewehr or Fallschirmjäger Maschinengewehr?
Its a rifle that can double as an MG if need be but it’s still a rifle.

Hitler even considered it a standard issue rifle once the war is over.

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.30 is to good for BR2

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M1 crybine was actually designed for auxiliary troops that didnt need full size rifle, garand.
Regardless the crybine variants eventually found theyr way to frontlines too, majority of its usage was in auxiliary roles.

So unless you are intending to become a chef or something doesnt make any sense.

Yes, because mobile troops such as paratrooppers definitely would benefit of everyone carrying a MG.
No sarcasm.

idk why; same reason it’s the Browning Automatic Rifle and not “Browning Automatic Machinegun”.

no they’d carry presumably bolt-action or semi-auto-only paratrooper rifles that would consume less ammo along with several fg42 magazines to keep their automatic rifleman supplied as german doctrine dictated. Never happened because post Crete the Luftwaffe never really wanted to deploy paratroopers again. They were used by special forces, they make sense for special paratrooper groups in the same way the VGO does, but they don’t make sense as a general issue rifle.

Ian says otherwise though he says that FG is battle rifle check his video about battlerifle

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The FG is not a MG, the FG is also not a battlerifle, neither an assault rifle.

The FG is a Fallschimjägers Gewehr. A paratrooper rifle. Specialised exactly for paratroopers.

Terms like Battlerifle didn’t exist back then, and while they would fit into this category, quite frankly it doesn’t matter in the end.

The FG is a FG.

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I hate the spastic vert recoil on it

But didnt the term automatic rifle exist back then?

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yeah; Ian’s looking at it from a “well technically” :nerd_face: perspective, rather than the way people on the ground saw it at the time.

to put it another way if it was such a good “general issue rifle”, why were so few ultimately produced? Yes it was expensive, especially the early milled examples, but the G43, heck the G41 both had an orders of magnitude more produced.

Reading about D-Day: a DIVISION of paratroopers, had 1k FG42’s; a DIVISION; and that was the group with the most of them; 2nd Parachute; which itself was destroyed in normandy in 1944…

basically what I’m saying is that by production numbers I don’t think anyone was intending the FG42 to fill the role of a general issue weapon, but as a Squad Automatic Weapon or a Squad Support Weapon

now you can argue the AVT has the same problem here, and honestly I think that if it comes down to it the Soviets need a better low tier MG than the madsen.

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quick google search translates “Automatic Rifle” to Automatisches Gewehr or Automatikgewehr, nor was the FG42 called a “Kampfgewehr”; as far as what the germans labeled it; don’t think they got the difference, though that might’ve just been either the SS, or the Wehrmacht, or someone entirely out of the loop, the nazis were really quite bad at bureaucracy, and it was basically all the opportunist germans who let them get as far as they did.

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Idk apparently due to things learned from crete they went with FG42.

Nor does, avs & variants of it, M2 and least the fedorov.

For me at least the 50 drum tompson deserve a better recoil and spread. It should be like 100 drum tompson held by paratrooper considering its br and the fact that us dont have assault rifle

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Yes
Other Thompsons only have a pathetic muzzle velocity of 260m/s.
Like a squirt gun

Yeah, thats why I said the 50 round Thompson should move to BR4 and the Mafia Tommy gun with the grip should be BR5 with a drum

you mean like the gold order M2A1?