Let's make a trade, Gaijin

You receive a lot of report bugs, as well as exploits me and my group of friends have discovered in our current 100+ hours since the game went free to play.
You return the bhopping, even with a nerf, anything that isn’t what it is now, this is abysmal and disgusting, if I wanted a WW2 game I’d go play anything else, this is by no means the best game out there.

:slight_smile: hurry up before I get banned :slight_smile:

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Yes so much yes, the game is fine but without any kind of bunnyhopping its kind of a generic WW2 game, a nerf was probably needed but cmon even CS GO still has bunnyhopping of some kind left after they nerfed it from source .
I get that some people (Cretins) hate bunnyhopping but think of the other side that absolutely love it

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Sounds like a trade offer to me

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You sir are a good man :two_hearts:

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why is bhopping so important?

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Because you can dodge the pay to win guns like dodging behind cover instead of instantly being gunned down by machine guns and its fun to do.

Bhopping is just horrendous, ppl jump shotting every corner reminds me of fortnite, it kills any immersion as well

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Have you been diagnosed or you’re just shitposting?

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Bhopping is gone. Thank god. Never again. That bullshit can fuck off

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question? do you think that actual soldiers bhop everywhere they go when in combat?

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Imagine being so bad at the game you have to bunny hop around like a spastic from CoD to even compete.
How about you delete your post and we’ll pretend this wasn’t posted.
:smile:

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Indeed its nice that bunny hopping is gone so bunnyhoppers can go extinct from Enlisted!

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Who gives a shit if it’s historically accurate, do any of you think about the other unrealistic shit in this game, the 8mm bullets of most the german guns which are bigger than a 7.62x54 not penetrating through a wooden wall, the fact you can jump out of a plane and survive a landing if you try to vault last second, the fact you can place spawners behind the enemy combat zone, this is a game, you people all react to this like bhopping is the worst thing in existence, if people can’t have fun doing what they like why play this.
I hope people who discover all the stupid shit that you can do keep quiet, so the game implodes, you don’t like elitists, you don’t like people who would rather have fun, you can keep your trolls.
I’m likely to never return to this game, but do expect a post on forums like UKC, MPGH and FearLessCE within the next few hours. :slight_smile:

I still dont see why such a stupid element of dumb arcady gameplay, on the level of COD sweaty whales, needs to be readded?

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not gonna read that

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Ha bye
:wave::baby::+1:

never.

we fought against it because it’s stupid and pretty much dumb.

doesn’t care if others game have it.

enlisted should not, and it’s not like others game.

how is this even a trade.

do you even hear your self?

if has been taken out, there’s a reason. don’t you think?

ok.

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the game is realistic mixed with arcade, with the arcade stuff being very minimal so things like bhopping, a very Arcady feature, shouldn’t be in it since that’s the easiest and most common way to cheese combat. this is why BFV levels of maneuverability isn’t in the game because it’s too Arcady. Maybe Bhop would still be in the game if people didn’t abused it in combat but who knows

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People can have many things they like or dislike. That is fine.

There are many, many games with bunny hopping.

I can only speak for myself. If I wanted bunny hopping I would go play those games. But I stopped playing bunny hopping games many years ago. So from my point of view removing bunny hopping is a must if a game is to be an authentic WW2 game.

I have spent money on Enlisted because I am looking for something other than bunny hopping. I want an authentic WW2 game, it does not have to be fully realistic, it does not have to be a simulator. But it can be authentic.

I will continue to spend money on Enlisted if it takes an authentic approach to WW2 gaming.

Once Enlisted turns out to be just like Call of Duty, Counterstrike, Battlefield etc. then I will stop playing the game and stop spending money on it.

As far a movement goes I find the soldiers in Enlisted still move far too fast, turn too fast (they can turn a full 360 degree turn in miliseconds, that is not authentic and just plain silly) for Enlisted to be seen as authentic.

I would like the soldiers in Enlisted to move and hold their weapons more like WW2 soldiers.

The problem with the current more Call of Duty style movement in Enlisted is that it supports running and gunning and punishes more tactical play.

For the past week I have been testing a more cautious, authentic movement approach in Enlisted and it does not pay off. Instead the running and gunning is rewarded.

I suggest making the soldiers in Enlisted move less like olympic athletes in sports gear and more like authentic conscripted/enlisted soldiers hampered by the limitations of carrying weapons, ammunition and full gear. Let them hold their weapons when they are moving like WW2 soldiers did, that would make running and gunning less succesfull.

If that is done then the AI soldiers too will perform better, because the AI soldiers currently cannot cope with human controlled movement in Enlisted, they cannot match it.

There are many games where running and gunning and brainlessly rushing the objective are rewarded. I stopped playing those sort of games a long time ago. If Enlisted turns out to be just like those games then I will not spend any more money on it.

Enlisted can be different compared to those other games.

The current level of AI soldiers is really, really bad. If a game is to have AI squads than they have to act like soldiers. Otherwise they are just useless bots that are cannon fodder for the human runners and gunners. That is exactly what I see in Enlisted now.

The AI is too slow in moving, turning and reacting and as a result too inaccurate to pose a threat to the best of the human runners and gunners if they have a superb internet connection and superb connection to the game. If soldiers, including the human controlled ones, would move, turn, hold their weapons (especially WHILE moving) and fire more authentically (so less accurate after moving X seconds/minutes) then the AI soldiers likely will perform better as well because they can then cope better with the humans.

The past week I have held back in the game and let my AI soldiers do the fighting. To observe them and to test how effective they are. And no matter what skill level they have (1 to 5 stars) and no matter what weapon they have the end result is the same: at best they shoot down 1-3 enemy soldiers. Often times none at all.

That is bad, really bad. I am fairly sure that the AI soldiers would become more effective if the movement, turning, weapon handling, accuracy (so less accurate after moving x seconds/minutes straight) is brought to more authentic levels.

As a test for the developers the best thing to start looking at is when a human with a knife enters a room with say 4 AI soldiers. The AI soldiers simply cannot cope with the speed with which the human moves, turns and attacks with his knife. The human beats the AI every time in situations like these.

If four AI soldiers can never beat one human with a knife in a room, then the game has failed to produce an authentic WW2 experience.

The AI soldiers and AI squads are the main unique selling point of Enlisted. Make them worth having for the human player and not just be cannon fodder for the human runners and gunners.

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You can post your own thread if you go to english speaking, suggestions tag, new post, good luck getting some attention out there, this post is fucked