Korean War

This idea has been suggested before however that was pre merge and not in detail.

Before I continue I want to emphasise that this is a Long Term Suggestion. Key word: Long term.

I do not expect this implemented right away.

I also want to strongly emphasise I fully support doing WWII first. There’s so much that could and should be added from WWII. Nevertheless I don’t see why we can’t at least discuss this idea.

I am NOT suggesting Enlisted turn into War Thunder or go beyond Korea.

I believe the Korean War fits the style of the game fine and, as has been recognised before, the overwhelming majority of content is already in the game and was used in WWII.

Gaining recognition for the Forgotten War and the men who fought it is important. It would also add more variety for BR V or a potential BR VI.

Based on previous posts apparently the Korean War would be very popular with the Asian market so would actually be financially wise as well.

Combatants:

USA and UK are already in game. Australian, New Zealand and Canadian troops should be added to WWII anyway (their uniforms are super easy to add). All of their weapons are already in game.

A Turkish premium squad could be a nice addition.

I would place South Korean squads under the USA tree since they primarily used American weapons and uniforms. Its quite easy to add some Korean names and faces.

I would suggest that North Korean forces be added as a part of Japan. This would allow the Japanese faction to be utiilised more. Korea was occupied by Japan from 1910-1945 and North Korean soldiers used many captured Japanese weapons.
(the list provided below doesnt account for the various Japanese weapons however I have previously read up on those and once again they’re all already in game).

For the PLA I would suggest they be a part of USSR. This is because the PRC was supported by the USSR and provided with Soviet weapons. It would allow mean that all the major factions besides Germany and Italy could take part in the Korean War.
Adding China as a subfaction within USSR also allows for potential WWII Chinese squads/maps to be added as a part of Allies if desired.

Maps
Maps are the only ‘major’ addition required for Korean War to be added. They shouldnt be too hard to create. Ive listed some suggestions, I encourage people to post others especially anyone from South Korea here.
Incheon
Seoul
Kapyong
Chaum Ni (Hills 614, 410, 703)
Imjin River

Weapons
Here is a list of weapons used in the Korean War. As can be seen, almost everything is already in game.

Aside from a couple of Chinese rifles (which are easy to add and were usually based on German rifles), the SKS is the only infantry weapon that stands out and that would be fine to add.

The other addition would be the Super Bazooka. Interestingly Australian soldiers got the Super Bazooka direct from U.S.A before American troops did. The Yanks therefore had to use WWII era M9 bazookas for a while. Adding the super bazooka would work fine as well.

Vehicles
Tanks such as the T 34 85 are surprise surprise already in game. Currently we do not have the M4A3E8 however apparently there is very little difference with the M4A3E2 already in game. It should be noted that the M4A3E8 did serve in WWII so adding it would work fine.
The Cromwell served in WWII so could be added without issue.
The Patton tank could be added and is not from WWII but I think it would be okay if it was excluded.

Likewise jeeps, halftracks and trucks are already in game. The BTR for example could be a better APC for USSR across WWII and Korea.

Aircraft
Aircraft for some is the elephant in the room. My thinking is as follows:

Aircraft in Enlisted are mainly for bombing and strafing. In Korea that tended to be the job of propeller driven aircraft. Therefore I propose the Korean War not include jets.
As well as creating a balance issue, I just dont think jets are actually necessary as they would very likely go off and do their own thing. This is an FPS first and foremost and should be treated as such.

If we stick to prop aircraft then yet again most of them are already in game. Any that are not could be added (they could even be imported straight from War Thunder) and since many of them served in WWII would be fine to add.
Now, the Douglas SkyRaider and Invader for example were not used in WWII. They wouldnt be OP since they are prop aircraft but once again, if its an issue to add them then just dont. That wouldnt ruin a Korean War campaign not having them.

Gold Order Soldiers
Michael Caine (yes, actor Michael Caine is a Korean War veteran)

Lieutenant Colonel Charles Green, a highly respected Australian commander of 3RAR who was killed only age 30 by a ‘1 in a million’ chance enemy shell.
https://www.awm.gov.au/visit/exhibitions/korea/faces/green

(I encourage any Americans here to suggest American gold order troops)

Suggested Squads:
No. 77 Squadron Royal Australian Air Force. This squadron served throughout WWII using P40 Kittyhawks, therefore could be added throughout the game.
In 1950 they were specifically requested by General MacArthur as they were the only Allied squadron close by with P51 Mustangs.
Later they got Gloster Meteors. For Enlisted Korean War they would just be a P51 squadron.

3RAR - Royal Australian Regiment. Served with distinction including a U.S Presidential Distinguished Unit Citation for service at the Battle of Kapyong.
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/U52113

2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry Served with distinction alongside 3RAR and other U.N forces.

Profile Pictures
General Douglas MacArthur (MacArthur was instrumental in the Pacific campaign of the Second World War so I’m surprised he isn’t included yet)

General Peng PLA.

3 Likes

Don’t worry, after fixing problems with WW2 then they will add cold war and modern war since they have the assets for it already.

They will just be minor sub factions of either Allies or British

No its under Soviet tree in cold war since north korea is formed thanks to Soviets while south korea is under Allies because allies formed it

1 Like

Cold war/Modern war isn’t that bad as long as they are not abusive like wt is

See my previous comment regarding Cold War Modern War.

Perhaps it wasnt clear I intended Australian, NZ and Canadian troops to be a part of the UK-Commonwealth tree. I wouldnt even call them sub factions really, just the ability to freely choose any of those nations uniforms for a standard ‘British’ squad, as well as nation specific squads for specific weapons
Eg. Owen gun - Australia. Ross rifle - Canada

Thank you for your support however I dont want a full Cold War or heaven forbid modern war element added to Enlisted.

Korean War to me is unique given how pretty much every weapon was from WWII. (Indeed in the book I read it said how ill equipped the U.S and U.N forces were with them literally still using the same equipment left over from WWII that was often poorly maintained. Even the uniforms in some cases were WWII-vintage.
Australia’s 3RAR troops were further mostly WWII veterans.

As I’ve said the only thing that really needs to be worked on is the maps themselves. Add some PLA squads to USSR and/or North Korean squads to Japan and DF could have this going by next month ‘theoretically’. (Im not saying they should do that).

1 Like

the Korean thing most defiantly wont happen the Korean war started 5 years after ww2

Chosin Reservoir when?

1 Like

Congratulations Poirot, I think we are aware the Korean War was 1950-1953.

Did I not address this in my post?? We do WWII first, but as an option for later on I believe Korea would work because its basically all WWII weapons. I did specify I dont want the game going beyond Korea.

PRC had some interesting guns too… Things like the STEN converted to accept PPS mags or BREN guns rebuilt to accept AK mags. Also a Type 100 copy chambered in .45 ACP and produced out of Mukden arsenal. .45 ACP Mauser C96. Wacky stuff.

1 Like

Thanks for sharing! So plenty of premium or gold order potential PRC weapons.

1 Like

That would be cool but china faction might be a problem since it something related to their nationalism iirc

Abusive in what way?
If you are talking about premiums or the like, than enlisted is even worse than WT.

Like grinding wise, WT has tormented people with tedious grinding along with silver lion costs that in long run punished bad player which is kind of the majority. Also Gaijin never listens to people unless people take riot to worse.

It requires less time to get the equivalent amount of content in WT compared to Enlisted.

Darkflow isnt exactly a dev that does things according to what playerbase wants either, I have been playing this game since alpha waves.

And honestly this games paid content is a lot more p2w too than WT, locking away features and blantantly better stuff behind paywall.

Also the pricing of content, many of which is just ripped assets from WT.

Unless if you are pro, average or poor performing players gets punished by repair and ammo costs since they get like 1 or 0 kills and dies frequently and matchmake again which is the real pain there. Now after the progression buff, I say enlisted is much easier to grind and at least they don’t punish bad players unlike WT does.

I wonder where? Paratroopers? Yeah I can agree there is some issue for majority, but for me its just fun since I can leave tnt on the landing spot and blow them up once they do. Other than that, bunch of premium sucks now. GO vehicles are just reskins nothing more or less. Some weapons are op I suppose like conders and lads.

I also agree that slots are locked behind paywall.

Most p2w stuff with op armor and guns are at war thunder with ridiculous pricing like Maus, IS-7, and E-100 with each costing around 2k or even mere 1k. I never seen enlisted having that and its good they never added gaijin market knowing in future will be more p2w and overpriced shits… :sob:

image

image

No just no, those tanks are at a br (especially is-7) where they will consistently face stuff like centurion mk3 which will lolpen it infront easily.
Neither the armour nor guns are anywhere near being op.

Honestly as someone who has plaid both from basically their launch, enlisted definitely takes the p2w cake.

I highly doubt that lmfao

This the pen visual using APDS:

APCBC:

This is centruion MK3 pen data using APCBC from IS-7:

Might have played in the past and forgotten already since back then when it came out with a summer event, it was ok until after the event which where the people began to notice buffs on it

The modern stuff is only there because of an old april fools event not because they plan on adding it