where did I or someone else said we’re better? Someone above said he think the kdr is something important and I simply explained why it’s not. Stop making a darama out of nothing.
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If so you have plenty of audience to brag about KDR without the need to do that here, where it obviously doesn’t work because general consensus looks elsewhere.
And yet a large portion of forum users is made by veteran players with plenty of experience about what does win matches and what doesn’t.
I’m sure your subscribers are more entertained by seeing you frag people left and right, rather than seeing you hammering a rally point in a quiet corner. Still, in plenty of matches, Bob the Builder can trump an enemy team of Rambos only.
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You sound like the kind of players I want in my team.
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Thanks for the reminder. I forgot who this guy was until then.
People just want to stoke their Egos.
I know my KD/R is under 2 to 1 (its average, some campaigns are 3 to 1 others like Normandy are 1.25 to 1).
But I play for the team, not personal gratification.
Until yesterday, I was 54 straight Ws before I finally lost to a far superior Moscow Allies team.
Right now on Stalingrad, I am still undefeated as Axis, though that can change any day now.
Let me help you understand this one last time. OP wanted to compare his K/D because he apparently takes pride in this. You immediately attacked him with your post and following statements:
You can see that your statements immediately attacked his pride as “nothing”. Basically attributed his K/D being higher to being a “camper”. Because according to you, that’s the only way to get high K/D. You may not have wanted to sound mean but you certainly got there by your statements and conclusions. All I am saying is, please, consider that you do not know everything, and let people play as they see fit. It’s just a game. You can certainly explain why you have certain opinion, but once you attribute the other opinion to meaning “nothing” and “being a camper” it certainly sounds ignorant, selfish and downright stupid.
As to me having drama, here are quotes below from some of your fellow triggered clowns who tend to be on aggressive, sarcastic side and whose opinions aren’t as mildly put as yours:
Now as to this dude:
Topic was posted by OP - not me. You can read, right? Which one of us in the wrong section? I? or you? And likewise, if you do not share OP’s enthusiasm for his K/D pride, why are you in this topic? Only to say that his pride is meaningless? You have plenty of space in the community forum to speak of your own “useless” or “meaningless” topics where we might never post, come to share or do anything else, yet you came to this topic and hillariously trying to tell OP and I that we should go elsewhere to discuss what is important to us. Morale of the story - please find your way out of topics if you have nothing to add, rather than tell OP and others to go elsewhere with topics related to Enlisted that you do not share. Hope that helps! You do not represent the general concensus, do not know it, and certainly aren’t a game moderator. So please keep your “instructions” to yourself. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
You are welcome to have that opinion based on absolutely nothing. I am not going to bother to ask you how you’ve come to that meaningless generalization just to suit your point, and frankly it’s irrelevant. Because your assumptions that all of us play this game just to “WIN MATCHES” is ridiculous obviously.
Bottom line in all of this, please be considerate of others. You do not represent all. If you do not like the topic - please don’t post. You do not need to tell people go elsewhere, because they don’t share your opinion. It’s silly. Remember it’s a game. The most important message in my channel is “share your experiences but remember it’s just a game”. Sharing an opinion is quite ok. But shoving it down someone else’s throat by claiming “we all agree here”, “the best people are here”, or other utter nonsense is comical if it wasn’t super sad.
Cheers! See you in games!
I remember you as well. You are someone who pretends he is calm and all knowing only to lob veiled insults. I don’t post my win percentages, victories in a row or other nonsense to brag. So much for “stocking egos” 
That is epic. Nothing says my way is the best way to play and everything else is “personal gratification”. Why? Well cause you said so, I am sure. Because your way is the only way to enjoy this game. Everything else is obviously wrong. Your evidence? “Well look at my record - I almost never lose”.
Thank you for sharing. I am glad you enjoy your games!
I’m always calm, and ego hahaha.
You have your millions of YT subscribers ect and all that other nonsense and you go at me on Ego. Everything you post is self serving to your own agenda. To your glorification and fabrication of a narrative that only suits you.
Where as I post on here to help and have honest discourse. All across the forum. But sure you do you, as you always do.
You are both a hypocrite, and attention seeking. You immediately wanted to find fault in what I posted. It was merely to prove again KD/R means nothing to winning games.
I never said my way was better, I said my way helps the team, in a team game.
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Where did I say the only way to get high kdr is camping? xD
I said
and that’s it. if you want to get high kdr with camping and not helping your team then sure it’s mean nothing, in the same time if you’re a good tanker and you’re helping your infantry and in the same time you get a good kdr then good for you, no one here have any problem with that. as long as you help your team you can play the way you want (camping with sniper is not really efficient and I said that as an example, I didn’t say that’s the only way to have a good kdr and I didn’t say people with good KDR are bad players. mine is 2.5 in tunisia , 1.5 in axis berlin)
and as I said before there was a guy talking about his opinion on why kdr is important and that’s why I even said anything here, I just explained why it’s not important.(again not important doesn’t mean people with good KDR all are bad players. it just really not important in here. after all it’s not CSGO you know)
I’m sorry to say that but I feel like you’re only trolling in here, trying to get some attention. the fun thing is even the OP didn’t say anything. we’re trying to help people get better in this game if you have any reason that KDR is important then share it here, if you like the post then do what OP asked and leave but stop making drama. stop saying nonsense that has no logic in it
Lol so let me get it straight… Me telling some people in this topic to be welcoming and accept to disagree without being hurtful is “glorification and fabrication of a narrative” that suits me. But you throwing veiled insults and bragging is “helping and having honest discourse”? Lol Got it.
This post wasn’t meant for you to “prove” anything to anyone. OP asked to compare his stats cause he took pride it in . He wasn’t asking for your meaningless comments - or “help and honest discourse”. Do you get it?
And yes, nothing says “i am not better, I help my team in a team game” as “your way means NOTHING to winning games”. Very inspirational.
Ele
Once again you are twisting the words I write to mean what you want them to mean.
Save a few my posts are all helpful.
You are the one who wants to further only your narrative in this thread. Where as the rest of us are telling the OP there is a better way.
I said nothing to the OP that was my way or thr highway. I gave him options as to what are good things to consider.
And the forum agreed.
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Haloka, the only two examples you gave, you made sure to say that K/D was accomplished by “campers”. Since you are mentioning now the possibility that a good tanker may also have a k/d rate high enough and help his team it makes it more inclusive and more inline with our thinking. The problem with some here is that they automatically attribute K/D to some sort of camping, uselessness and etc. And since in your examples you mentioned only camping and that naturally implies negative connotations, I just wanted to point it out that it was hurtful. That’s all.
I already did. In another post. The problem is while you leave the room to consider other styles, some other players here do not.
That’s should not come as a shock to you, after the way he was belittled. In fact, it’s no surprise most people do not stay long on the forums, and majority of the posts are by the same people who think they know better. You can’t be an inclusive community if a post gets bashed right away. I would be surprised if OP would be willing to stay on the forum or post again. I don’t blame him.
Now you begin to sound like some others here. You are better than this. I am in the right thread, and I responded to the OP. The only people who didn’t mention it is you and others. Look at my initial post. How can I be trolling while responding to OP and sharing my stats? What attention? I have more than enough people sharing my point of view? Others here however, never answered his question and instead choose to belittle him for his premise.
We have a different definition of trolling, clearly. But appreciate an attempt to be civil in a discussion. The rest here are far too aggressive for a game. You do not need that - it doesn’t make them better, smarter, or anything else. It drives people away from forum. I encourage you to read the original post and my original response.
Pleased to meet you, btw. Hope to see you in some games!
Well you started this with @115490500, pinned people here and refuse to accept other opinion and closing the discussion, because in some way you fell offended, we can call this trolling dude
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Thats your problem. I don’t need to twist your words - you are quite clear. He didn’t ask you for “a better way”. He didn’t ask you for options. He asked what your K/D ratio was because he wanted to compare how he was doing in relation to other players. Instead every single post immediately told him that his premise means “NOTHING”. Lol you gave him options??? The guy may never return to the forum or post again because of your “helpfullness”, o all knowing Soul. And if you can’t see it, then it’s irrelevant to speak more on this.
Dear Gasta, I don’t need to accept other people’s opinion. That’s not how forums work. Original poster also didn’t ask for your opinions on his premise - he just asked to see how he compared to others in K/D department with 100+ kills per game. So trolling started by you guys when you decided to tell him that his thread is useless and meaningless because that stat is irrelevant to you. Personally, in your shoes, I would have sat out if I thought topic was irrelevant to you. But you guys wanted him to know that you thought his premise was stupid. In fact, aside from myself, only Haloka and Soul even remotely responded to his questions - the rest of you told him that his topic is irrelevant. And I call that “trolling”. And yes it’s offensive. You may be a better player at this point than OP is. And you may have your opinion, but he didn’t ask for your opinion on K/D. He asked to compare his stats to his.
He did indirectly, by asking what ours were and what’s good.
Notice how all of us chimed (not just me) that there are other things to take into consideration.
I also said that some of the most important things to consider are not listed on that page.
I never said his premise means nothing. Not once.
You are putting words in my posts that did not exist.
I also never pretend to be wise and knowing (unless it’s history, telephony, chemistry, conservation of nature, as those are my actual skill sets).
And people might not come back to the game because they cannot figure out why they always lose but have a 6 to 1 KD/R.
Game. Set. Match.
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Dude if for all of us Kd is nothing important and we dont want talk about it is a problem for you or op? Sorry for op because people dint want talk about it but is a forum choice, we dont want talk about it for a lot of good reason expecially for avoid toxicity, so you can stop of being “offended” because this happen in every topic like this
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I was about to say the same thing xD
I can talk all day telling you why it feel like trolling but you won’t accept it anyway
another example is this. you’re accusing me for something that I didn’t even say xD
do your self a favor and read your replays again. I promise you it’s not just me feeling you’re trolling in here.
OP asked something? sure. but that doesn’t mean we can’t or shouldn’t share our point of view to this. even if this won’t help the OP there’s a chance someone with a bad KDR read this post and realize he’s doing a good job and even if he has a bad KDR maybe he’s playing the harder side of campaign or maybe it get better at higher level or maybe that’s not a big deal!
again if OP going to get upset over random people saying KDR mean nothing then I think OP shouldn’t be in this forum in the first place. people won’t always agree with you, you need to just accept that and if you can’t and if you find it offending then just use this forum as bug report and play your game, you won’t miss much!
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He asked people for their K/D and your response was “here is a list of think that really counts” and having high K/D implies being a “brick to your team”. Does it strike you as answering his question? Does implying that K/D means being “brick” imply that you have a positive opinion on this topic?
Absolutely, but we aren’t talking about a game - we are talking about a forum here. And it’s quite clear why they don’t want to come back to the forum. Match, indeed.
Then why are you in this topic??? There is no toxicity if you just don’t come to the topic that you “DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT”. We would have shared our stats, opinions in line with OP. Why did you feel the need to join? You clearly don’t like the topic, don’t have anything to add, and clearly annoyed. So yes, your presence here with your attitude is the definition of trolling, mate. You see it?
You didn’t talk of camping snipers?
No one told you can’t share your opinion. The problem is he wasn’t asking you for your opinion. He asked for stats. Yes, you can still share it, but you all choose to tell him that his thinking is meaningless, useless and etc.
That’s not how forums work. We have moderators and rules. You can share your opinions by posting topics. You can share your opinions by responding in relevant topics. But responding in topics with premises you don’t agree with by informing OP that his premise is useless or meaningless is neither a good etiquette nor is it within forum rules. This is what creates toxicity. I am sure the developers of the game wanted an all inclusive space for people to co exist. You specifically did not do too much but others are way too self entitled here. And that shows in ugly way very fast.
Imagine if all that can all be avoided by you and others who share your opinions, by simply not posting in topics to which you have nothing to add. Wouldn’t that be an easier, better and far more civil option? By choosing to respond, you have to accept a common sense etiquette. In this topic, I was the only one who responded and asked for civility.
The rest were “being helpful” by telling OP “how meaningless” his topic is.
You have to agree to disagree before you post. Not “You are wrong, you need to listen to me and my friends, because we are right. We aren’t going to be nice about it. And if you don’t like it don’t come to the forums”.
Ele
- is a free forum
- i sayed op he gonna die more than he can kill so is better concentrate on play
- you are not op advocate, if op dint like our answer he can talk for himself stop trying to have rigth because this is the exactly the type of toxicity we want avoid here, smartass wo write a book evey time thinking they are in the rigth
spoiler: you are annoying and dereil the topic for your own EGO