Just a quick question: How come these two 80mm mortar soldiers can walk so fast while carrying it?

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Even Soviet mortars could weigh as much as 50kg.

Because in the DF world, if the weapon is not physically in the soldiers hands it doesn’t effect mobility, which is totally realistic. :rofl: When I run acrost the battlefield with a MG in my hand, I usually remove it from my hand so my dude will run faster, which in reality shouldn’t have made a difference since I am still carrying the weapon, just on my back instead of my hands, but unless I physically dropped the weapon, the weight is still there. If DF wanted to make the game more realistic, they they would change it so that the weapon is always going to slow you down, unless you physically dropped it and left it behind.

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The problem lies precisely here: when carrying the mortar, the soldier can still sprint at 100% movement speed.

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Not true, carrying a mortar in hands does have a movement speed penalty.

Soldiers in Enlisted are ubermensch, they can shoulder AT rifles, take multiple .50 cal shots and run in full speed with heavy body armour on.

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Which is actually realistic - carrying weight doesn’t slw you down - unless it is extremely clunky to carry - it tires you out.

So they should tire a lot faster!!

As for carrying the mortar - it would be at least 3 ppl carrying it - the Soviet BM-81mm mortar weights 56 kg, which is pretty typical of mortars of that size and era, and was broken into 3 loads for carriage: Tube, Baseplate, Bipod - and each weight roughtly hte same - 18-19 kilos - about 40 lbs.

Bit of minutiae for you - the British 3" mortar was actually 81mm caliber (3.19 inches), not 76.2mm (3 inches) - the French Brandt designs in 81mm were a direct copy of hte Stokes mortar, and many 3" mortars purchased by the French were still in service in WW2.

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Well, unless you carry the S18-100, thats said ubermensch kryptonite.

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Weight only affects stamina (in very meaningless scale).

The movement penalty is a completely artificial stat that is given to weapons very inconsistently.

You’ll find lighter weapons that have worse movement penalties than heavier ones. Or at least that was the case before. (I’m too lazy to double check now, I know they made some changes here and there).


Btw. It’s not like it make any sense to have mortars in your hands while changing position
So it’s completely irrelevant anyway.

Enlisted soldiers have Dutch blood.

(Eheheheh)

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Its quite simple. American soldiers have coke, germans have pervitin, soviets have stalinium, and japs are dwarves