Jumbo and m4a2

Why the fuck should i play with a Panther if it was created for Long range engagments?, im not playing sportive ther is a counter for camping tanks it’s called cas (what i did for like a week when I was grinding the last 3 level of US without premium)

With AP is inconsistent,sometimes 1 shell other 3 shell to detonate the ammo,With apcbc you always detonate the ammunition on a direct hit.

Btw it’s not a balance problem if the player is too ignorant to know where to shoot

Scott has the best post-pen dmg round of the US. It has the best chance to OHK tanks without hitting ammo, let alone inf.
People just dont use it like it was intended to use. Not blame the Germans or RL if Yankees use them like heavy tanks and wage (unnecessary) frontal engagements, especially the M10. Same reason why there so many wrecked M5s in Normandy.

The Panther is the answer to the Jumbo, the M10 to the Panther (and being more effective at destroying other tanks). 76mm is more effective against both Panther and the Panzer IV than the 75mm. “BaD”…

I wouldnt call suicide-bombing proper-working balance… nor skillfull.

Not really. I survided many shots of the Panzer IVs in my M4A2 or Firefly. It matters where you hit. Ammo is (usually) not in the turret and since post-pen dmg and module hp is different than in WT, you will survive as long as he really didnt aim for the ammo.

? So what now?

Can’t do much if players can’t use a plane nor drop a bomb on the tank

The counter Is there they need to learn use it

Same reason as before if the player don’t know where to shoot it’s his problem not a balance problem

The Grey zone camping is not a problem by itself

The real problem are map that permit and incetivaze it and deathpacks

So what exactly are you trying to add here?

An answer to something should be at least comparable to said something.

But M10 is too hard to use lol?
Also not all players have more than 4 slots. Its basically P2W.

Which was my point lol. Sherman dont get OHKilled all the time due to luck, skill or cause he couldnt aim for the ammo.

M8 is good if you use it like a M8 and not like a Jumbo.
M10 is good if you use it like a TD and not like a Jumbo.
Still too complicated?

And what should have been the answer to the Jumbo?

Quite the genius, aren’t you? You just solved everything. Truly impressive. /s

Ideally, nothing. The Jumbo shouldn’t have been here in the first place. However, since we’re in this shit show, the answer to the Jumbo should’ve been the Nashorn. That would also justify why the M10 is here.

Obi Wan So uncivilized
I saw better answers that. Yankees and Wehraboos used to be better.

Yeah. Add a tank which was deployed against the Soviets and in Italy in first place.

but the pzIV is too hard to use lol?

if the m10 can hit a small spot on the panther the pzIV can too no double standards

(btw there is still the fact that the only 2 tanks that can destroy a panther are m10/8, when almost all german tanks with skill can destroy a jumbo)

i use only the plane when i dont have premium

depends on the player if its a casual player good he doesnt OHK you, but competent player can easily OHK you.

It’s a TD. Jumbo didn’t exist until OO was over. What’s your point? lol

Aside that… horrible gun depression, which is dumb for hilly Normandy fights.

You mean the mantlet?
Do I have to point out how much bigger the mantlet is compared to a mg port?

Nice. And other people wo dont main planes?

Well. Technically/ According to WT, even M4A2/ Jumbo can pen the mp port.
Just use skill.

yeah i guess those AP can do a lot of damage

they use tanks, i dont particulary like planes i use them bc they are strong.

the counter is there if you want to use it good, if not your problem

mg port and cupola aremore than enough and dont tell me its impossible to do at distance i too played with the pz j/H,
some times random dispersion make the shoot dissapear but at the 2nd/3trd shell you shoot in the right place you pen them and its almost always 3 kill.

Well. All Allied tanks aside the M5 can pen the mg port, some even the mantlet.
So its fine I guess. Panther/ Normandy is balanced.

Still as big as the mantlet?

Doesnt sound confident and less skill-, but rather RNG-based.

sure but AP and rng still are a problem

the panther yes it is p47 and the new p51 can do short work of it, the m4a2 and m5 with only AP not so much and the shitty TD that exist only for giving US tank a chance to counter the panther.

the only real worth tank to use is the jumbo

no but there are, and you’re not forced to pick an slow, open top, not armoured veichle with an exposed commander to pen them

the skill is precisly know where to shoot, the insane dispersion even from 250m idk why it exist

To both force you to grind/ gold buy the squad tech tree and silver orders. Cant image how it looks like after the weapon economy “improvement”.

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Yeah, horrible if you wanna go up beside a bunker that is so high up the enemy can see your underside and you can literally spawn kill them as they spawn. Aside from that, no map of Normandy will require you to use any form of gun depression that puts the -8 of the Panther/-10 of US tanks to use.

Any other inconveniences you are desperate to add to preserve the idiotic status quo?

You know Germans have the high ground on D-Day and Ver-Sur and the map with the mansion as final cp?

Because they are all comparable with the Nashorn, a tank with different depression, designed for the flat regions of the Soviet Union honk honk

Sry that your ideas suck hard.

Is ver-sur

Iirc correctly, the mansion map as invasion/ assault existed before Ver-sur Invasion with the expection that the Allies started from the hills behind the beaches instead of the beach and that it had two cps instead of one on the majority of the sectors. Think it was Ver-Sur Assault or sth.

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