It's time to give the Chinese military more distinctive features

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The in-game Chinese forces are missing a crucial weapon - the C96 ‘Mauser’ pistol. This iconic firearm and its variants were widely used across China and contributed significantly to China’s national liberation efforts.

Additionally, while the chinese army extensively produced M24 grenade copies, implementing them for the Chinese faction would be as simple as copy-pasting a few assets.

Finally, allow me to propose the most classic and distinctive melee weapon: the dadao (Chinese broadsword). Its combat effectiveness could reference games like For Honor. If the devs consider adding these unique elements, it would greatly help me promote the ‘Thompson 7.63 Squad’ as well.

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Don’t forget the M35 helmet. The production team just needs to copy and paste it for the Chinese military.

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if japs can’t have manchukuo soldiers and customization, thai forces and their own customization, etc. I don’t think this suits, or everyone or nobody

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Id love a proper chinese unit, especially now we have Burma, however its a lot of work for only a single map where it would fit. Better facial features would be nice, though you could make an argument a lot of the gear would be lend lease style equipment, like I know the chinese who fought in burma were under US command.

That or as Noah suggested, include it in a wide Manchuria patch, that way Japan could benefit from a lot of new weapons and squads as well as opening up the USSR to a second front.

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China should become its own subfaction at some point, I just hope the devs do the sensible thing and actually make the Brits/Commonwealth and Italy fully functional first.

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I honestly think that the Chinese should be removed from the shop and event box etc… they should focus on adding italy and UK first, then add china back as it’s own faction. There is also a way for the UK to be added without seperating players. They can have the UK and Italy que alongside US and German players. Ex: the UK would share all of the maps with the US, and Italy would have Tunisia and Stalingrad (and hopefully sicilly and other Italian maps, Monte Casino would offer some unique gameplay) This is already in the game too with custom games, you can have multiple nations in the same team, I don’t see why they couldn’t just add that to the matchmaking.

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problem it’s japan, the extreme toxic behavior would make things hard to make coexist, just look what they did, but still I would love both in the game

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I think that would work too, seperate factions that just take part in the same matchmaking system, but a lot of people have an aneurysm if you mention UK/Commonwealth/Italy as anything other than subfactions (apparently people still taking part in the current matchmaker is “dividing the playerbase”), so I just live with the compromise of one day being allowed to switch out the nationalities of the squads too (not just the soldiers, there definetly should be a rocket artillery squad for the Brits for example, land mattress anyone?).

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I expect it to look a lot like the Russian forums, just more one sided.

I have no idea,their desire for revenge is so great from what I’ve seen on McDonald’s Discord, the official one, and Reddit that I doubt they know how to live together healthily

It’s just a puppet states
Like Philippine, Burma, Albania, Hellenic, Vichy France, Norway, Hungary why care about puppet states

They do exist
BP tank camo

meaning as infantry squad

Hungary would be a interesting subfaction though…? They weren’t even occupied by Germany until the Soviets were on its borders so not really a puppet state through most of the war.

They used a lot of Swedish tanks which is a bonus for me as well.

Maybe we should at least give the Chinese Thompson a bayonet to start with :sweat_smile:?

Thank you for your post.

I agree in principle but as others have said the issue here is that China really shouldnt be in the game at current.

Now I would strongly welcome China to Enlisted, I just mean when weve only got Burma I really dont like seeing Chinese soldiers landing on D Day or fighting in the desert.

But in future Id welcome all these ideas including the ‘box cannon’ which I believe is what China called the C96 Mauser?

Now in the interest of constructive criticism I would suggest giving Chinese squads standard American uniforms for now rather than specific Chinese.

That way when the event/premium squads are in maps other than Burma they will just be Chinese or ‘Asian’-American soldiers which did absolutely exist (there were even Japanese-American soldiers fighting in Europe).

@Admiral_Wenli I like the idea of Manchuria. Ive suggested many times before adding China as a proper sub faction of USSR.

  1. Adds China to the game which attracts a large playerbase
  2. Allows the long needed Japan v USSR
  3. Adds variety for Japan and USSR especially (China instead of just bleak snow maps)
  4. Fills out the USSR tech tree
  5. USSR already has American and German tech in the tree so it would be fine having China with some USA/Germany tech (people forget that while China did use American/British tech for example they were often different to what the Allies actually used, eg P66 and CW21 fighters were not used by the USAAF)

@OggeKing I dont really mind the order but yes 100% I want UK+Commonwealth and Italy+Other Axis Nations as proper factions.
I cannot agree more Ogge about the unnecessary and illogical hate against UK-Commonwealth/Italy trees.
As you, me and many others have repeated so many times USA and UK would queue together in most cases so it would not be splitting the playerbase. It’s just separating the trees to allow more space instead of messy folders and DF can just add more content overall.

Personally Ive always hoped that this would happen so that we can get UK/Commonwealth specific maps in future, i.e basically anything pre 1943 like France, Greece, Norway, Tobruk.

It is insane to ignore over half of WWII. Same goes for US specific battles like the Philippines or Okinawa.

I also agree Hungary would be cool to see. One of the false arguments against UK-Commonwealth and Italy trees is waaahh not enough content.
If the UK were actually allowed to have all their tech theyd have plenty of content, especially with the Commonwealth.

Myself personally Id also add Greece and Norway or any other small Allied nation for further tech. Not that Greece or Norway had a huge amount of stuff but its still more tech as options.

Likewise Italy, add Hungary, Romania, Finland, Croatia and Slovakia. Plenty of tech to draw from.

Another thing: Its funny because people whinge that new tech trees (eg France) would need prototypes to get to BR V. Now personally I would just not have trees go to BR V if they cant make it.

But here’s the neat part:
The same people who scream that UK-Commonwealth and Italy shouldnt exist because theyd need potentially some prototypes or copypaste (like 1) to get to BR V… are the same people who constantly defend and call for more BS prototypes and copy paste (eg Japanese Tiger tank).

Make it make sense.

@Chris_Vector yep, exactly. Clearly the haters dont know much about WWII given the amount of times the Allies and Axis fought alongside each other.

Faction specific maps like I describe above arent even in the game yet so DF could create new UK-Commonwealth and Italy trees tomorrow and the playerbase wouldnt be split because the queues would stay the same.

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We can finally get the full length mannlichers (m93 back from the dead and the actual rifle m1895, not the carbine we have already). It would be so cool. The Kiraly would be a no brainer to port across. Those are about the Hungarian weapons I know. It makes it even more exciting, because a lot of weapons would be new ones, not just ports (although I still wouldn’t mind some ports).

It would make for a very strong nation indeed.

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I like these ideas!

Side question: Why did DF remove the M93? There are many things they should have removed but the M93 wasnt one of them.

Often we comment now ‘such and such should be removed’ and people say nahhh DF wont remove anything that’s been added.
And yet the M93 was removed???

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It was a reward from the old stalingrad pass

Really? Because I recall equipping it and didnt mind it but never got any passes/event/premium/early unlocks or anything.

Am I muddled up with an M94 or something?

It was a Romanian rifle iirc.