Italian Visual Rework

Let alone, Realistically: Enlisted gave up realism along time ago, Do you think Germany fought russia with an insane number of MKB-42s vs a ton of russian Feds?

I’d be down to see italy get new uniforms and be shown off more much like how the brits are.

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But not in Moscow. We have historical documentation of all the units involved in the Battle of Moscow. Italians weren’t there. Period.

So were the allies, doesn’t mean we should have Moroccans running around in Normandy

I’d like that too, but I’d also like them to be limited to the campaigns they were actually in. Stalingrad is a perfect campaign to introduce the Italian uniforms to.

Sure, but the uniforms is one of the easiest ways they can still preserve some sort of historical authenticity. Just because this game isn’t 100% realistic, doesn’t mean I want to see Soviets storming the beaches on D-day or Japanese fighting in Berlin.

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Dude, who spoke about moroocans soviets on france or dumb stuff like that? lol This is about Italians wearing italian. What’s that need to have the reason no matter what?

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Funny (sad) thing is: they do

My point is that asking for Italian uniforms for Italian squads in Moscow or Berlin is equally as stupid as asking for Moroccan uniforms for the Moroccan squad in Normandy. I think Italians should only have their uniforms in campaigns where they make sense i.e. Tunisia and Stalingrad.

Ah yes for the LIMITED Italian squads that exist lets make them only seeable IN TWO (MAYBE THREE) OF THE BATTLE FIELDS.

dude. you flat out have the biggest L stance.

If people want to use italians they want to see the italians in italian gear. If they wanted germans they’d use tech tree squads or german squads. People who play with italians WANT to see the italians gear.

No, I agree. I don’t want to see Italians running around in German uniforms either. I think Italians should be separated from Germany and be their own faction. Then we wouldn’t have to see Italians in Berlin or Moscow, they could have their own new campaigns like Sicily and Italian campaign.

But in the meanwhile, if they’re gonna add Italian uniforms outside Tunisia, it should only happen in Stalingrad because it’s the only campaign we currently have where it would make sense.

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My dude… The devs said no and plus Italy was dead as hell in tunsisa until the paratrooper event came.

Plus a 5th faction being italy would just not work. Like why on earth would you switch to italy, There’s falt out zero reason.

The grind in italy would be insanely boring, you know the 20 round M38? Hope you really like that as your starting gun while the germans get the MP-28.

Italy only good offer would be aircraft.

their tank line would be a joke vs soviets. let alone US

Their AT weapons were basically ATRs and would have a hard time vs a T-34 or even Sherman

they lack motars if memory serves. They lack tanks in general, They lack SMGs, They lack rifles.

Breaking Italy off would be basically killing off a ton of content from use. No one played italy in tunsisa. it’s why it was a bot farm for M O N T H s.

TLRD: Italy would be full of German stuff and basically be a bootleg Germany with just some special weapons here and there. Italy was dead as hell in campaigns Due to what it offered wasn’t that great.

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Devs have only said that they aren’t currently working on it or planning it yet

Brixia Model 35 (45mm light mortar)
Mortaito da 81/14 Modello 35 (81mm mortar)

Only BR3-5 tanks really, like Japan they have a bunch of early tanks and like Japan, you could maybe sneak in one prototype tank to balance it out a bit (P.43 bis). Or like you said, it could be balanced with much better aircraft

Beretta M1918, Beretta M1, Beretta Model 38, FNAB-43, TZ-45, OG-44, OVP 1918 and all their variants

These are pretty much the ones I can remember from the top of my head and basically the same amount Japan has

Panzerfausts. They used them in high numbers and if Soviets have them, why wouldn’t Germany’s closest ally.

They only lack semi auto rifles due to them all being used as either premium, event or gold order weapons

New maps, new weapons, new content? Why do people play Japan? New content. Or what, you’re going to play only Germany because other factions aren’t worth it? At some point you’re going to fully max out a faction and wanting to try a new one.

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Italian tank, weapons, aircraft and even romanian aircraft can appear in Moscow.
Germans with Italian tanks without Italians at all is worst than Italians in Moscow.

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Untrue, youre clearly ignorant on this topic. Im not trying to be rude Im just saying do your research, theres plenty of forum posts you can use to educate yourself on this.

Because it wasnt Italy, it was Germany+ and people didnt wanna grind YET ANOTHER German Campaign.

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You can fill up rifle line with protos and trial guns, but Italy doesn’t have MGs, G55 is already in game and only G56 would be an improvement, a BR4 aircraft at best but will Italy do against P-47 spam? What about assault weapons line, Italy has no good candidate for AR unless you put Breda PG in AR instead of SF rifle.

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The MG branch would be a little scarce, however the Italians used ZB26s and MG34s that could fill in at BRIII and IV but the Italians have a 100rnd Folgore Breda SAFAT Mod.35 MMG with a rifle stock just like the M1919A6. It would be so funny if we got that before a 100rnd MG42 lol. Again it would be even more varied than the Japanese tree but for some reason it would be unfeasible.

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there is literally no point to seperate Italy if we fill up Italian tech tree with the same weapons Germany have.

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Well lets put it this way, I assume you play Germany. Do you have any interest in Italian weapons? I assume your answer is no. Well if we add Italy then we would take those weapons out of the German tree and put them in the Italian tree, thereby reducing the grind for all the German tree. No more shit tier pizza tanks in your tank line that you will never use, no more 6rnd semi autos before your superior 10rnd G41, no more Breda Mod.30 before your MG13, no more OVP or M1918 before your superior german toob gun that is definitely not a toob gun(MP40). It would be a win win. Unless for some reason you prefer Italian weapons and and think the German tree needs them

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I corrected it for you.
There is nothing to be gained from that, also how do you expect to take away guns from Germany when already half the playerbase own them.

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Simple, do the same thing War Thunder did when they separated Italy from Germany.
1.No new players can unlock Italian weapons in German tree(because they will be gone)
2. You keep what you earned.
3. You can only get them if you already started researching them.

Is this the only reason you think it would be a lose lose situation? Do you think these weapons are irreplaceable?

there were italian tank in german tree in warthunder? what?

i swear italian tank tree exist with 2 prem tank and i have never seen any italian tank in german tree before (this was before italian got add as official tree of course)

The planes were. Italian plane came out before italian tanks. And before italian air tree all italian planes were in the german tree.