Is the game community bad? is the game really unbalanced?

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i’ve been looking forums recently to better understand the game, and every discussion degenerated in people complaining about balance.
some people say that the germans are OP, others say that the russians are OP, and there is overall a lot of rivalry between the comunities, expecially the soviet and germans one.
some even make fun of the opposing nation, and i was just looking for suggestions all the time!
i mean, is the community that savage?

there is also a lot of people complaining about late gear in general, on how it is too much OP again.

the only unbalanced thing i’ve noticed is with tanks, low level tanks can’t do anything against the more advanced ones.

but i don’t exactly understand the complains about infantry fights.

having a drum-magazine machine gun is good, but my basic one can still kill easily 3-4 people before i need that 1 second it takes to reload.

my lowest level rifle oneshots people as easily as an upgraded one.

my most feared unit is composed by 9 riflemen with basic bolt action mosin, and i can dominate the scoreboard with them.

isn’t it that maybe the avarage players complain about balance issues when in fact they are just noobs? no offence.

i mean, since i starded to play i am always top 25% on leaderboard. (never 1st tho).
maybe war thunders players got here, but aren’t used about hitting moving targets, or not camping behind corners all time XD.

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No helpful advice here friend

Move along

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If you value your mental health i would recommend staying away from all “conversations” about balance here on the forum

But if you want to be on the forum here are a few buzzwords i recommend avoiding if you dont want chaos

Fg 42, ppsh/ppd, t-50, jumbo, panther, p-47

Mentioning any of these at any time has a 90% chance of giving you depression

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sometimes i feel sadistic ( :<
i will create a discussion in the forum tomorrow: “what do you think about Fg 42,the ppsh/ppd, the t-50, the jumbo, and the panther, p-47?”
it will be like dropping a nuke and then watching the chaos unfold ( :<

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Absolute menace to society

But the title is to obvious, people will know it is bait.
Or maybe not if you come of as a person that is genuenly clueless about the situation

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Welcome!

Just queue up, have fun and decide for yourself.

I started playing Enlisted back in December when my go to franchise, Battlefield, died with the abomination that is 2042. I’ve been having a blast playing Enlisted ever since!

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It’s become very imbalanced due to constant demands of nerfs by the community. Map objectives, Weapon rate of fire, Weapon damage, Weapon ammo, Movement with certain weapons, Effectiveness of certain vehicles, Effectiveness, duration, and damage of artillery strikes, pretty much everything is being boiled down to a cod clone because people demand more and more nerfs. It used to be a very fun and hectic game with artillery, mass charges, it was beautiful. Two forum posts sum up the community when it comes to nerfs. One was someone that admitted to never playing axis claiming axis was overpowered in the berlin campaign, the other is someone insisting that det packs aren’t as lethal as grenades because “they don’t cause shrapnel”. The community in this forum is largely whiners because they don’t get a consistent 150+ bot pwnd score at the end of every match. Most complaints about infantry fights come from very bad allies exclusive players. Allies infantry equipment is pretty much better across the board with a few exceptions. After playing both sides since before the berlin campaign closed beta there is a stark difference that has solely benefitted the allied side. It’s unfortunate but not game breaking.

Honestly I just wish the community would stop insisting on nerfing things. It hasn’t made the game better, the people that complained before now just find new things to complain about, and the interesting aspect of this game has been lost. I’m hoping the game starts to comeback to what it originally was until then I’ll just hop on every now and then and kill some time. It’s a decent shooter but it doesn’t stand out anymore imo.

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Peace is to difficult

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Disregard complains about other side gear and enjoy the fucking game.

Use the foruns to report bugs and suggest nice addictions to the game.

Forget about X is op Y is op.
Bad players complain about what killed them, here there, and on any online fps game.

And most importantly, if you read Alot, your opinions on topics are important too. Participate. Even if you disagree.

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The game’s balance is tuned towards high-level campaign players, if every player had access to all weapons, squads, and gear then in theory winrates for factions should be even, the problem is that players are all at different levels in their progression and some early campaign stuff is just better for some factions than others. Combine that with an economy system that rewards those who simply have put more time into the game or more money makes the balance more frustrating.

The smallish playerbase further compounds this issue because it’s hard to tell how balanced the game is when it’s hard to have even matches due to random MM and bots filling in for low-population matches. Hopefully as the playerbase grows and more people get end-game stuff it’ll be easier to tell how balanced the factions are.

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you forgot the Il2 :wink:

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Yea it honestly is kinda draining to read some of the posts; 50% of post are always seem to devolve to FG42 bad. Play the game to have fun; I just got off a match where I didn’t care about grinding or anything and it was on of my best matches yet.

Side note: One shotting things with the PIAT is super satisfying.

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There’s a lot of BS on the forums coming from players who don’t know what theyre talking about for a variety of reasons. There’s also a fair amount of very good players who have good opinions on balance, even though I disagree with them on some points.

Enlisted also has an issue where some gear or weapons become substantially stronger when they get upgraded or paired with certain perks. There’s a huge difference between 9 AVT’s and 9 AVT’s all with Vitality, medkit use speed, and Vertical Recoil Reduction. I think a lot of players don’t utilize the perks that make the “OP” weapons so powerful and so they think certain weapons aren’t as good as they really are

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Yeah, there are quite a lot threads about the same topic (“The enemy team has won the last match. Must be balance issue, i need better weapons blabla”), you should
a)ignore if you’re looking for helpful posts
or
b)read for simple amusement and forget.
Between these messing and whining you can find a lot of really informative threads and a friendly helpful community, devs actually reading coummunity post and so on. ( I appreciate that.)
Might be a bit time consuming to figure that out in this amount of salty tears. ^^

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So Piat is the equalizer for the BF110 then ? :slight_smile: Good to know since was thinking about this early stage of balance against the US in Normandy yesterday. Well the US counter plane isnt that bad and are better in the air though. Even if the BF110 is squishy af ill still give it +1 extra since it such an nasty ground fighter and still can hunt planes with both 30mms which are hard to aim with though.

But also since i came from Moscow where the GRB was an God to then Realizing that the flaregun in Normandy with same warhead was shit due to little ammo and the rly slow reload rate ^^ Even though you can hit from 150m and up with it its to slow and to little ammo to correct the shots and effectively kill tanks

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Yeah, half a year ago I thought the community was nice and into the game good-hearted.

Not really interested in the OP/nerf thing myself. I just enjoy constructive criticism or a laugh here and there.

If you all could just enjoy the game and play the objectives more it will become more fun for all.
Make suggestions all day long if you wish(the developers read everything here in these forums they said).

It’s just a game!

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now try out 9 riflemen with FG42 vs 9 riflemen with mosins.
I am not saying that the factions are unbalanced, but that some weapons are just way better than others.

Sure tank combat is kinda crazy, every time a new tank gets added, tank to tank combat is kinda always favouring one side, at least to some extend, because the exact counterparts that both factions unlock at the same lvl are not balanced “most of the time”

Panzer IV J < T34 85
Tiger > IS 1
Jumbo > Panzer IV H
T50 > Panzer III J
Panzer III > Scott
T60 > Panzer II
Panther > M10

Now I am not saying that these vehicles are broken and cant be dealt with, the Jumbo has some weak spots same as the T50 while they also have rather shitty guns, the tiger has just more dmg than the T34 but still dies fast enough, the panther has very strong frontal armor, but the turret is easily hit…

So even if these vehicles are just a little bit “better” than their counterparts, as long as you know where to aim and what to do, skill will mostly neglect these benefits, yet it all still means in the end that these vehicles are superior thus “technically” unbalanced.
Worth crying on the forums about it ? Probably not, since you dont NEED to use vehicles 90% of the time, because vehicles are not OP on their own, at least not yet. When it comes to infantry balance tho, I would say things need to be said loud and often, to make clear that faction balance is always worked on constantly.

That being said, I would say because: ppsh “kinda” = FG42 berlin is “balanced” enough.

however FG 42 and Stg> M2 carbine and Thompson so i kinda feel like Normandy is a bit favoured towards the axis side.

Moscow seems ok, cuz sniper squad with STG = assault squad with ppsh

and Africa… well all just get basic smgs… Thompson is kinda sick, still guess its balanced, at least until the next campaign update is coming : /

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Not sure bout that. The scott is faster and gets heat, while the panzer 3 gets a coax and a closed roof. Pretty balanced I’d say.

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well there had been many complaints about the panzer III being alot supperior to the scott in the past, now its not that big of a problem anymore, but it used to be nearly impossible to dmg the panzer III while it would basically always one shot kill the scott.

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actually, now that I think about it, ppl complained more about the panzer III than about the Puma. Crazy world hu?