IS-2 M1944 has inaccurate armor specifications, specifically regarding the lower glacis plate.
In Enlisted, IS-2 M1944 has 100mm of RHA angled at 30 degrees. This is an incorrect value, historically, as well as in War Thunder, IS-2 M1944 had 130mm of RHA angled at 30 degrees.
This presents a problem since it allows the lower glacis plate of the IS-2 M1944 to be penetrated by 7,5cm KwK42 L/70 and 8,8cm KwK36 L/58, which is not the case in reality, as well as in War Thunder.
Panthers and Tigers would still be able to knock out IS-2 M1944s frontally, by shooting the turret front or the cupola, but it would take more careful aiming.
And as to why I am suggesting this, the final vehicle in the tank line shouldn’t be able to get killed so easily by weaker and lower BR tanks. And plus many people are struggling with using the IS-2 M1944 as it is pretty difficult to use effectively, so this armor buff would help those who struggle.
Sherman’s IRL could bounce Panther shots. Good luck that ever happening in Enlisted. Lol. Plus the M1 and M9 Bazooka’s are underperforming. Not to mention all 75mm’s being nerfed to solid slug AP shot instead of APCBC like all German 75’s get
Yeah, random inaccuracies like that are all over the place. I will admit that it surprises me that there is one on a Russian tank of all things though…
Only Sherman variant that had a realistic chance of withstanding a Panzergranate 39/42 at standard combat ranges was the M4A3E2, and even it struggled. In Enlisted magical bounces and ricochets happen way too much.
Personally, I don’t think the M72 solid AP is even that bad, I reliably oneshot Panzer 3s/4s with it by hitting the ammorack. But I agree, M61 would be great.
Tank inaccuracies regarding Soviet tanks is mostly due to different factories having slightly different production procedures, and the data about them being all over the place.
Tell that to the accounts of WWII vets who have said that they had shells bounce off their Sherman tank. Not Jumbo’s either. I believe Lafayette Pool was in an M4A2? When he bounced a Panther shell
Literally any tank with decently thick armor can bounce practically any WW2 era kinetic energy shell, if it’s under a weird angle. There’s accounts of T-34/85s and M10s withstanding 88mm shells, but instances of this happening are INSANELY rare, hence why I said “Only Sherman variant that had a realistic chance of witstanding…”.
Can Shermans in theory bounce Pzgr. 39/42? Yes
Was it very improbable, nigh impossible? Also yes
In enlisted, all tanks gets destroyed very easily (except Kv-1, Panther, or tiger series) by yeeting tnts because the armor is downgraded version for balancing reasons. If the lower plat is buffed, then King Tiger will be way inferior than IS-2 1944 which will make the wehraboos cry a lot since they can’t penn IS-2 1944 while they can 1 shot any other tanks with 122mm canon.
I have tested it in WT, IS-2s lower glacis plate, accounting for angle, withstands 7,5cm KwK42 L/70, except for point blank range (100m>). And besides, one could just angle a little and it would not penetrate even at point blank.
Armor is not downgraded for balancing reasons. Armor is historically accurate on all tanks, except for some minor mistakes like these. If the lower front plate is buffed, 8,8cm KwK43 L/71 could still penetrate it, just like how 122mm D-25T can penetrate Tiger 2’s lower front plate. As far as Tiger 2 users are concerned, nothing changed for them.
It is angled at 30 degrees, and the impact angle would be about 40 degrees. Armor effectives significantly increases higher the angles go, and armor penetration of kinetic shells significantly decreases higher the angles go.
