Looks like the current stug camo on normandy.
I would bet the hetzer will be the free version for normandy
Oh I love the gold order T-34-85 so much despite many of the maps from the campaign limited the use of tanks. Real satisfying to blow up a Panther or a Tiger using with this tank.
Good thing Seelow Heights came so there was more reasons to use the tank.
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But isnt the gold order the same as an upgraded T34? I think it is
I do have an upgraded T34-85 Zis and that thing is really good
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Its a fully upgraded T-34-85 yes with decals too that makes it look better. Its just a way cheaper alternative than fully upgrading a regular T-34-85 especially back then when vehicle parts cost silver weapon card.
This again, I really dont think the explosive filler of the 88 was a benefit that made much of a difference. Like getting shot with a 50.cal or with a 20mm canon, you are dead no matter what. This is all just some weird nonsense that came over from warthunder, like that “heavy AP tungsten penetrators” deal less dmg to the tank crew for balance reasons.
Sure thing, on paper over penetrating projectiles should deal less dmg than something that literally explodes after entering the target, still shrapnel would finish of most tanks in one good hit anyways.
That’s the thing though, it did in real world make a Lot of difference.
Your Analog of getting shot with a .50 cal or 20mm is a poor analogy for what I am talking about. Humans and tanks react very much differently to what hits them.
Depending on what resources and combat logs you read, you will find a lot of useful information regarding that.
Many tanks knocked out in the opening stages of Barbarossa were repairable and not all the crew died. They were hit by lower caliber rounds which , while disabling the tank, did not always ensure it was a write off. And many crew survived to fight again later. (Otto Carius was a good example of his after action report on one incident, even if he got the weapon that hit him incorrectly, its something I’ve cited a few times in online resources)
There are other sources that state too (if I had my books with me I could actually reference them) it took 2-3 hits at times with the 75mm Guns (I think Referencing the L/48’s and L/40’s) to reliable set ablaze the tanks they faced. The 88 was a different animal, with that much RDX or HDX inside, once that shell was in, it was basically over for that tank (obviously there are exceptions to that rule) but it had multiple times the filler and was much more capable of one hit killing the tanks it was up against.
Not to say that the 75mm couldn’t, but it required a little more luck and precision to do it right.
I don’t know personally, how they modelled the shells, and how they interact with the tanks, but from an observational perspective they are accurate in terms of how there is such a differential at times to the damage models of the L/70 75 and L/56 88.