i don’t make lots of suggestion like this one, but i guess it wouldn’t hurt to try.
Main Suggestion
today i would like to suggest to introduce in the game the Sdk.fz 251 Ausf D, “22”
( not… in as… today. but somewhere in the future )
i think it could be an interesting event vehicle.
or… as premium for 2000 gold coins.
the same one that is also present in war thunder
( more technical info here )
personally, not sure if as a tank destroyer, or APC like the sdkfz 251/9.
most certainly either a br III tank destroyer, or BR IV APC that’s for sure.
it might not suit all taste, but i think it could be an interesting collector vehicle.
that’s all.
Historical shell Configuration
uses a 75 mm PaK40/3 L46 cannon with
x5 - heat
x17 - APCB
x26 - HE
x3 - APCR
Cons
- open top
- light armored
- no coax
Pros
- moderate speed
- fast reload
- good shells
- unlike other tank destroyers, the crew can use weapons to cover the rear and sides ( just like APC do )
- ( possible premium bonuses if becomes a premium vehicle )
a glass cannon so to speak.
and well, that’s all.
you can try a modded version ( which tries to replicate the vehicle, only issue are collisions but it’s mostly functional ) over this mod here:
https://sandbox.enlisted.net/post/1twizvGK0obIX9As/
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Br 3 is too high for it. The gun is the only good thing it has and it doesnt even rotate. It would be br 2 like the marder
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the marder 3H is br 3 though
beside, this thing can go toe to toe with pershings and is2s
( although yes. if you are placing your self in such vehicle against br V ones, something has gone wrong. or maybe you’re looking for a challenge 
)
it has some very good shells
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Definitely yes, I just can’t get enough of these Hanomag variants. These are the type of vehicles that look great pimped up with some camo and bushes. Ever since they improved the customization I’ve been thinking of using the Stummel more often. This one would suit well in the mix.
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It should not be there. Same thing with stug 3f.
It still needs to aim carefully or use apcr with bad post pen while is 2 and pershing can oneshot it without effort. Also tank battles arent everything. This thing will be extremely weak against infantry attacks due to no mg, bad armour, no turret and open top. Why would anyone use it over panzer 4? Because it has apcr? Panzer 4 has better armour, rotating turret and machineguns. There is a good reason almost nobody uses marder 3h or stug in br 3
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imo, it’s fine where it is.
well, like most things 
well, the Ai at the back can fence off attacks with their smg.
so… it’s tecnically better than most or all tds on that front.
the same reason why people use Panzer IV 70s, or any other Tds.
sidegrades, or choices. ( even though the panzer IV 70s and other type of TDs do have a coax and are closed top. hence br IV )
matter of fact, you don’t see many open top passed br III. with the exception of the NA-TO, and m18.
so again, in my opinion, br III is fine.
has a good cannon that can deal with most targets, but the trade off of being not so armored and open top.
I still find br 2 marder better than this thing. It is smaller, has better mobility and you get player controlled mg instead of relying on AI. It should be br 2 in my opinion but we can agree to disagree
perhaps.
personally, i wouldn’t care that much.
i’d use it at any br
guess we’ll let that one to devs.
although at BR III seems balanced to me so it wouldn’t face too many anti tank rifles or autocannons.
but a not too convincing argument i must add. ( although… the stummel is br III 
because of the APC settings )
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NO. These vehicles’ job was no longer troop carriers
It’s already hard enough I keep asking to correct the 251/9
The 251/9 can remain a mistake (for now) but let’s not mess any other halftrack combat vehicles
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I think it would be a nice high tier APC like at br5 instead of 4 because it would destroy most tanks while struggling vs a handful of tanks if it was used in a TD way but being able to spawn into it would be good as well being placed 100m away with a clear shot onto points making the person spawning in able to send a shell before pushing into the area
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It doesn’t have enough armor pen for BRV, especially against the Soviets.
except it does?
now granted, actual players are not as dumb as AI.
but it is able to pen pretty much all tanks through weakspots ( either next to the driver view port, or in the turret )
as explained, you can even pen pershings.
If it used APCR rounds, maybe. But even with that it would only have 5 more millimeters of penetration than the Panther, since the game seems to use the 100m penetration value for all distances. Using AP rounds, it’s armor penetration is about the same as the Tiger E. As a tank destroyer, it’s way worse than the Jagdpanzer. As an APC it would be overpowered at any BR just because of its anti-personnel capabilities, with enough armor to be two-shot with rifle AT grenades.
put this in br3, put all truck APCs in br1, put all armored APCs in br2
