Introduce Grey Zone Armor Decay for Tanks in active combat

[_fi_nal]

@robihr

solution is not nerf the all tanks

cause you cant deal with them.

I’m personally OK, thanks for your concern though.

@robihr

how does rally point function? how does APC function? do they just magically teleport?

You got it. These are magic too. People step out of a fucking radio for christ sake (but it’s OK, you can put a mine on the radio and when they materialize that kills them all).

front lines are a thing and without breaking through them you cant go into enemy territory.
btw you want magic?

Front lines are a thing but they are not an impenetrable death trap (see the times when they were penetrated) and not even in ww1 where people were running into wire and mg emplacements did you a guarantee of death for everyone involved. Certainly not when these frontlines and their death rays move because a random dot on the map is lost to the enemy. Which is again, magic.

You can come up with whatever handwaving-bs explanation you want but this is still basically magic, as are many other aspects you correctly highlighted.

[robihr]

@_fi_nal

why are you even playing combined arms game in the first place? do you think that you could walk to any enemy tank as you pleased in ww2? why did the AT guns or rocket launchers got invented if that was the case?

@_fi_nal

You can come up with whatever handwaving-bs explanation you want but this is still basically magic, as are many other aspects you correctly highlighted.

so why is one magic acceptable when other is not? gray zone is perfectly ok mechanism, just as are tanks in there cause there are enough counters to destroy them while they are in gray zone. i would consider this valid complaint if there werent 4-5 ways to kill tanks in enemy gray zone.

[Your_Local_NKVD]

@_fi_nal

Currently the game restricts opposing player access to different map parts via the grey zone. Since the effects of this (killing players automatically) are basically for all intents and purposes magic, we dont need to bother with any realism here.

Forgot APC and rallies? They magically teleport too. But in the end, its just a game based on WW2 with some realism.

@_fi_nal

Simple functionality: A tank is on grey zone and kills a player: this starts decay ticker which reduces the tanks armor by 1% per second while the tank is in the grey zone up to -80%. This serves to make the tanks much more vulnerable to any countermeasure also from lower BR players.

Exiting the grey zone instantly restores the armor but returning to grey zone maintains the achieved decay %.

Makes tanks 100% useless and playerbase shifts to planes where they might have a war with DF to increase fighter and Attacker capacity.

[FLAG03]

I don’t think it’s a big problem
I have used the iron fist on the iron bridge several times to snipe the tanks next to the houses on the edge of the river bank.
(Corrected several ballistics)

Unfortunately
There aren’t that many guys willing to fend off planes these days.
More casual players who like to bathe in enemy explosives

[_fi_nal]

so why is one magic acceptable when other is not?

It’s acceptable, and therefore so are adjustments to that magic - which is what I’m doing, if you bother to read my messages. I’m not the one here who’s trying to Ackshually the magic death rays into being a realistic feature.

@robihr

why are you even playing combined arms game in the first place? do you think that you could walk to any enemy tank as you pleased in ww2?

So long as the tank doesn’t spot you, then yeah you can walk to it unless it’s covered by someone else. You won’t get blasted by magic death rays at least.

But what’s your point here: if you can’t farm lower level players with your KT as effectively as now, the game is not combined arms anymore or what? Are you gonna quit if the grey zone gets removed one day and people can walk to your tank?

[robihr]

@_fi_nal

But what’s your point here: if you can’t farm lower level players with your KT as effectively as now, the game is not combined arms anymore or what? Are you gonna quit if the grey zone gets removed one day and people can walk to your tank?

1. i was against KT being introduced into the game. it was unnecessary addition to the game that just ruined tank balance.
2. i am not even that much of a tank player (probably have more hours in plane than in tank). i main mostly infantry and i get into vehicles sometimes when my team doesnt suck too much that i need to carry it with infantry (it happens very rarely)
3. if gray zone gets removed you will just introduce bigger problem with people spawn camping enemy tanks. cant wait for videos of people mining tank spawn with AT mines, or getting behind enemy spawn with tank and just killing them from behind
   just look at this example:

Enlisted - Armored train escort - German offence

just so you know how combined arms actually works in real life:

German Panzer Tactics WW2 - Attack

this is exactly how tanks behave in this game. if you perceive gray zone as such a big problem then ask for bigger maps with bigger playable area, bigger caps and/or better counters to tank. removing gray zone in current game is absolutely stupid, as well is any iteration of nerfing tanks for actually doing their job as they were intended to do.

[Darenius1]

@_fi_nal

Simple functionality: A tank is on grey zone and kills a player: this starts decay ticker which reduces the tanks armor by 1% per second while the tank is in the grey zone up to -80%. This serves to make the tanks much more vulnerable to any countermeasure also from lower BR players.

This is just stait up retarded.

Is it raining acid dissolving tank armor now? If yes then please make the same rain kill infantry unless they equip an umbrella.
This decay will make fighting in and with tanks just horrible as nothing will be consistant. Your short 50mm cannon might pen that t 34 frontaly but how long was he been there again? IDK just wait for marker to turn green. As tanker it will be stait up horrible as by the time you reached the playable area 50% of the armor is gone with no othere way to avoid this… meaning simple ATR will be able to pick you off. But then how does the AT gunner know if armor has decayed enought with no indicator? So for the lauchers you will be stuck guessing where the armor currently is and continue to shoot until it is decayed enough for it to pen.

Worse is that bombs fragments might just sniper your entire tank from 30+ meter away because magic said so. But that is harmless compared to AT strafing from planes that will have even less roof or side armor to care about and every tank will be japanese now…

This feature does not improve the game it just makes part of the game inconsistent and frustrating for everyone involved.