Interesting Quote on Air Power in WW2

From battle around Carentan, by 101st Airborne, 502nd.

They got hit by 2 Stukas, and got 30 killed, from blind strafe and bombs. Interesting fact, shows power… of the air power lol

This gamey video game is obviously just a silly video game lol BUT got the numbers in the right vicinity, I guess.

“Only nightfall and American artillery fire offered any relief. This moment was short lived as two German Ju-87 Stukas attacked. The aircraft strafed and bombed the causeway, killing 30 men, which knocked I Company completely out of the battle. At that point, the casualties suffered by the 3rd Battalion of the 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment were estimated at 67 percent. This section of the Carentan Highway became known as Purple Heart Lane.”

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Nice read, that article. Stuff like that:

“The battalion had gone into action with 700 men, but was down to 132.”

Wow, that’s the same 101st as in Band of Brothers, just next to E company, more or less. Series would have ended here, if it was about 502nd, sadly.

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they should still make a short series about it thou

But one thing to consider, most people complaining about “muh fun ingame”:

  • Never Served in Armed Forces
  • Never read a Book from Eyewitnesses that were fighting in the Frontlines of 2nd WW
  • Never Watched an actual Documentary about the fighting, just “nazis bad mkay”

So people that lack understanding or actual experience, have a great difficulty to understand that a Battle isn’t a Tea party but brutal fight for survival. And that one die is not a extraordinary event in 2nd WW but the norm.

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if you want to go down that line of thinking then it nerfs germany lot more than russia or america especially in berlin and normandy since german air power was a shadow of it’s former self in 44-45, the g43 and the eventual stg44 would be class locked since they weren’t produced in large enough numbers, svt40 was made in more quantity then both the stg and g43 combined. FG would be extremely restrictive and for invasion modes; the allies would have an extreme amount of tickets if not infinite amount because the allies had much more manpower than 44-45 germany.

TL;DR: this is a game meant to show how it is but doesn’t mean that fun and balance comes second

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That you not able to understand where I am going to with my post, that a real battle is fight for survival rather than you coming again with Bombers and your fun, just zip it Ricky.

There should be 2 Troops game modes, one for people that dont want bombers and all the crybabies of this forum. And one where action is nonstop provided.

Gewehr-43: No. built 402,713 (produced until 1945)
Sturmgewehr 44: No. built 425,977 (produced until 1945)
SVT-40: 1,452,211 (production until 1945, only SVT-40 not AVT-40)

Dont see valid point, especially since its nowhere stated that the Units ingame are normal Wehrmacht or perhaps Waffen-SS units which always received better equipment.

As for 1944 Air superiority, well, have a interesting read: https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5309&context=open_access_etds

Additionally, Germany was overall better trained than their counterpart, hence inflicting more casualties:

“On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50 percent higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances (emphasis in original). This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1985/05/05/their-wehrmacht-was-better-than-our-army/0b2cfe73-68f4-4bc3-a62d-7626f6382dbd/

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Yawn.
I will block you, talking with you makes no sense kiddo. You unable to understand the easiest things said, maybe its age difference. Maybe lack of belt operations by your father. Who knows.

and 13 million Kars98ks but the SVT-40s would have been the standard service rifle if it wasn’t for ww2 so svt-40 for all class would make more sense than all class g43 from a historical standpoint.

the funny part is that you can ID which regiments are SS by the symbols since SS will have a slightly modified symbols to fit censorship. but for your sake i’ll list them out
normandy: the level 20 unlock is the 9th waffen SS division
berlin: the tank squad is the 11th, and the level 3 sniper squad is the 15th SS division
as you can see the only infantry squad in those 2 campaigns is the sniper squad at level 3

i see the word East which is the USSR and the only campaign that is in the east post 44 is berlin which so nice try there.

same can be said since you just want your side to win :wink: and you know i’m right about the german manpower shortages but please do put your salt on my popcorn

Why is some /pol/ shitter coming and shitting about the forum this week.

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Maybe because Enlisted is one of the most based games around rn. Who knows.

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So how are you going to implement the red peasant army ? Remove stamina from them so they are inferior to actually trained military ? Perhaps remove prone & crouch too to present the soviets massive cacualties ?

Or are we just nitpicking the realistic parts that favors your chosen faction ?

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no they would have about 50% the staminia since they are still human and can still run just not as far as trained soldiers

again they are still humans and even then having them have half hp would make sense

no just saying that germany directly benefits from breaking from not being 100% historical which is why “it’s a game” mentality is extremely important here

I don’t know about you all, but I play videogames to have fun. I don’t want a realistic PTSD simulator, I want a FUN videogame. Air Power being op is realistic sure, but guess how much fun any soldier had on a battlefield during WW2.

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Good point, so also about 50% less accuracy ? little bit RNG bestest times.

Yeah sounds fun.

As does EVERY faction.

i wouldn’t mind that since it forces people to slow down their firing times

it would also force soviets mains to be much more cautious

some more than others with the only thing that america really gets from breaking history is jumbo and m2 carbine the british weapons did exist around the time just that america didn’t use them so switching squads around so british weapons are gotten with british squad is something i’ve advocated in the pasted

yeah, less speed with bolt-action is exactly what people needs and some RNG.

And still sounds like shit ton of fun.

Yeah, they just werent there by the time but who cares ?
And just as much automatic weapons which is just as much historically inaccurated as germans having alot of automatic weapons.

No wonder the game is dying if they actually listens to forums.

there use to be a malfunction feature in the game iirc but it was only put onto bolt actions for some reason so i think it would be cool to add that again

as long as you through enough bodies :wink:

i know the devs wouldn’t remove things so how about we restrict automatics to assaulters and gunners only and have heavier tanks like jumbo, panther (normandy only), is-2, and king tiger not sure what would be the “heavy” tanks of moscow take up both tank spawns meaning if you want heavy armor it will come at the cost of your team’s total fire power

i think dropping only ussr’s stats would be biased against them, and it would make ussr be at a large disadvantage if the drop is as much as u guys are suggesting. also the game isnt dying and the jumbo was made specifically for the usa landings in france iirc. and not everything can be completely accurate to real life if u want there to be anyone playing moscow ussr or berlin axis

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…or how much money did they give away to be able to participate in war.