Instead of nerfing select fire rifles/ assault rifles (FG42 and equivalents)

Instead of nerfing these rifles to hell and make them garbage without perks/ammo pouches how about locking the selector for infantry to single shot only and for assaulter class making them select fire, single shot and full auto?

Please don’t turn this thread into a war.

I guess it’s to late for that :joy:

Welcome to the average thread on enlisted.

Jokes aside,

As a FG42 user, I would like to’ somewhat agree, but to a certain degree.

You are not solving the “problem”. Which it’s limiting the gun in the first place. Yes, you are limiting the usage of the gun, but the gun it self remains.

I don’t know how many German players plays with the fg.
I tend to overlook my teammates. Like, I don’t get paid for watch them :woman_shrugging:t3:, but, as a somewhat of a “ experienced German player “ that comes from other noticable games where aim is somewhat required ( like, csgo, rainbow six, valorant and yada yada yada ), ( I know, weird flex, and I’m sorry because I’m not really the type of “ show off “ ) giving the single fire to the fg it’s actually better than the automatic fire.

The fg 42 got the recoil increased for automatic fire.

So making it single fire, it’s actually more of a bonus, because it teaches the players to engage with single fire and it’s just enough to kill anyone with just two bullets.

Lastly, I’m capable ( and I think everyone is ) to “ recreate “ the automatic fire in just single fire because there is little delays betwe each single fire. Making it almost ideal for close quarter.

But than, what about the FG42 II? Weather it’s stricted for the snipers, it’s somewhat better than the FG42 it self…

Unfortunately, I’m afraid what you suggested it’s not a solution. And therefore, ( I think ) it’s necessary that the gun should be unbuffed, and strictly limited to machinegunners.

But we’ll see what the others thinks ( which it’s more obvious at this point. )

Cheers.

FG42 is just an example since in future i’m sure they will add the STG and i was hoping they would impliment this before it does so it wont unbalance the game and just a lot of crying would nerf the STG into a BB gun.

I was also hoping the VG 1-5 would be an infantry weapon and not an assaulter one, i would rather have my soldiers carry that then the FG in berlin.

And to be fair the recoil on auto is almost spot on, the FG42 is a very light weapon and the 7.92x57 is a very powerful round. It would give a lot of recoil.

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During cbt, anc CAT, the VG was a semi auto rifle for all infantry. But Russian players complained about it, and devs decided to limit it to the assaulters.

Regarding the stg, we only tested a Normandy prototype version, called the MKH 42.

Had a similar recoil to the beretta m19 ( the one with the mag on the sight ).

While a consistent damage of 2 shoots per soldier like the fg.

( quite powerful. As it should be I guess ).

But back than, the stg could have been used by engineers, mortars and also radio operators.

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Ofcourse they did haha. But unfortunately you will always have complaints regardless if its a good or bad change. Still think its the best option for these kind of weapons instead of nerfing them. And having them fully locked to a single class.

Even if it was for me FG would be locked to falschrimjaeger units. My biggest fear is if they don’t lock uniforms/customization options to units like SS uniforms to ss and Falschrimjaeger helms to their units, but thats a post for another day haha.

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They aren’t nerfed “to hell” and if you t hink they are “garbage” without ammo pouches then you’re a bit thick really… they are made a bit mnore balanced and give you a reason to use a little trigger discipline and have an enginer along.

Oh - and be constrained in amunition just like everyone else is…

Funny how all t his special pleading didn’t crop up for the AVS-36 with only 30 rounds…

Wheraboo tears at being forced to be the same as everyone else and not special are geting to be more and more fun every day :smiley:

If you don’t want this “turned into a war” then stop whinging.

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instead of constructive criticizim you say “wheraboo tears” im speaking in general for ALL weapons instead of being a dumbass you should learn how to read a fucking title “AND EQUIVALENTS” fg42 is just an example yes build a fucking ammo point, if you are assaulting a postion after firing a mag you go back to resuply and assault the position again. Have you ever played enlisted? If you assault a position and you clear it you have to defend against a counter attack you dont have time to go back.

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Havent seen so much of “wehraboo” tears here, rather allies crying over every gun that kills them.

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Limit FG, M2, AVS to certain classes, done.
How many times do we have to go through this?

Without those weapons being available to everybody we would have 10% less posts on the forum.

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Matters for Berlin I gues…Won’t make a blind bit of differnce really - the AVS has no real equivalent in Moscow, and hte FDG42 has no real equivalent in Normandy- so within those campaigns you haven’t really solved anything and that’s more than enough for whinging from all and sundry.

I read it - and it’s clear you don’t actually give a rotund rodent’s rectum except for the FG - you are hoping there’s some allied equivalent so you can get your little foo foo hard with your pretty playstick.

But it has no equivalent in Normandy, and the AVS has no equivalent in Moscow.

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Perks and extras are added afterwards making them great again but that counts for every gun.
The rifles you mean are still the best rifles even without the extras.

Fg still has the most ammo from the battle rifles. With the extras you only enlarge that advantage. They fixed something that was completely broken and made it fair.

De -escalate and be a man of your words. Why else put it there if you are going to start a war.

BAR?

I don’t understand your idea of “real equivalent”. There is no equivalent for PPD, MG42 etc and somehow the game functions quite good.
All I want is to limit full auto weapons to certain classes.

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:joy: seems you only read what you want,

if it was for me i would lock fg for FS units only,

what this thread is about and what i mean is in future WHEN stg is added or similar weapons they should not be allowed to be automatic for normal units.

And full auto versions should only be allowed to assaulters.

I have been playing mostly allies normandy lately so wheraboo my ass Its always funny when ppl like you jump on a thread to just bash german side but anyway. Enjoy getting blasted by a full auto fg42 :slight_smile:

And they basicly put it back as a golden order weapon. The only thing they changed is the gunmodel to a Gewehr 43 in Berlin.

To what classes ?
FG in gunner class wouldnt make sense as its by far inferior to other LMG’s. Same goes with M2 that would make even less sense in gunner class and AVS.
So should the other LMG’s get nerfed heavily to make FG viable option for gunner or should the FG get massive buff to be viable option as gunner ?

In assaulter class its more versatile than SMG’s, but lacks the ammo to be sufficient in assaulter tasks.
If it could replace the bolt-action in dual wield option the crying over OP dual wield would remain.
So what then ? Nerf the FG even further or nerf them already rather bad SMG’s to “balance” the german FG + SMG load out ?

M2 in assaulter class would be technically be the jack of all trades but it still inferior to SMG + Bolt-action combo, so it would technically be useless.

AVS as assaulter, cant really think of single reason why would anyone switch theyr PPD / PPSh doomsday cannon to AVS ? Perhaps if the AVS could replace the bolt-action as secondary weapon but that leads to question is that OP af.

wait I saw an OBT video and this game had MP/43 as well, so could we expect two prototypes for Normandy and StG44 for Berlin?

AVS, M2 and Stg should be all in the assaulter class in my opinion. They would be jack of all trades but master of none (ideally). Typical trade off: versatility vs effectiveness.
So they would be still usefull but only if you know how to use them. They would be inferior to BA+SMG as you wrote but they would give you option to have a backpack so it’s a trade off.

FG should be for the Gunner class as “axis BAR”. And you would use it over for example MG34 because of this:

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So it would nerf germany little further without anything in exchange.

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