I think AA gun needs resupplying a bit too often. So adding one extra reserve magazine would be nice.
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Agree.
Plus what’s the point of overheating mechanic if the gun has only 20/40 rounds.
AAs are definitely not so OP to justify only three 20 rnds mags with bonus overheat and restrictred angles.
This legacy of nerfs is truly ridiculous
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Anti-aircraft guns should be super deadly
Give us back the 4-barrelled anti-aircraft gun or make it automated
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The anti-aircraft gun needs to be strengthened. At present, its firepower is a bit too weak. It is difficult to form an effective air defense with only one 20mm cannon.
However, I still object to making it capable of horizontal fire. The current situation of infantry is very poor. From anti-tank guns to HMGs, there are too many highly efficient weapons to harvest them.
But I 100% support increasing the anti-aircraft efficiency of anti-aircraft guns.
Currently, the firepower of the anti-aircraft gun, which only has one 20mm cannon, is too weak.
Even in the era of proliferation of anti-aircraft guns in 2022, everyone’s view is still: the anti-aircraft guns cannot be allowed to shoot flatly/the four-barreled anti-aircraft guns can be weakened into a single tube
This is a single-choice question
Unfortunately in the end the developers chose both and that’s the problem
In addition, I think the variant of the bunker machine gun: the heavy machine gun bunker is a very successful case.
Why not use him more?
Create an upgraded anti-aircraft gun, maybe a 37/40mm, or a quad-barreled anti-aircraft gun
This is good for game diversity
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Situation of infantry is only poor against AA if they don’t put up proper support counters to them…all it takes is one tank hit or sniper shot to take it out.
Hummm, but there is some (very very very) goods players with AA Guns Who Just killed all planes.
They mission for them : Killing enemy planes Before the hvar’s spam (or other rockets/ heavy bombs).
And at the end off the game, they are on the top players, little ratio KD, but a lot off véhicules kills… And a big score.
If they can do it, why we can’t do it too ?
I’ve try it, but it’s so hard to find the good place, wait thé plane, support team with AT canon, wait thé plane, call radio, wait thé plane… And kill thé plane (good aiming, fire at the better moment, etc).
This is the theory, but it is impossible to guarantee that you will always have countermeasures when encountering AA. Maybe your teammate’s tank will not pay attention to AA at all, or the position of AA cannot be supported by them. Your sniper may have been killed by the enemy long ago. Yes, because the AI in this game is very poor. I often encounter tanks but my anti-tank soldiers have long been killed.
The proliferation of AA almost ruined this game two years ago. I don’t want to see a repeat of this incident.
Imo AA is fine on low BR. But I guess it could be changed to a better one on high BR when/if we get engineer buildings dependant on BR.
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@紫電改_N1K2-J Well your teammates are constantly being spawned in some with sniper squads or tank squads waiting to replace any tanka or snipers lost…and don’t forget about artillery almost everyone has a radio squad member in their squads to call in artillery on AA position. When AA could still aim down i always end up killed by artillery or tank shot, i didn’t last more then 3-4 mins on the AA gun to suppress enemy.
Agree for the overheating but not on the restricted angle
I agree with this,however, I remind you we have also HEAVY machine guns too for this purpose also: High caliber: heavy machine guns! - News - Enlisted
I think the problem is the lack of a tier system for these buildables;
in essence they ended up being used in the same way heavy Machineguns or MG’s are supposed to be used and that was distorting the balance too much;
the lack of buildables having a clear “difference by tier”, and the availbility of buildables provided doesn’t help this much;
it ties into how Machineguns are used/balanced and how machinegun squads “work”;
to make a long post short I’d have AA work as follows:
- Tier 1-2: Rifle Caliber Machinegun; can be set up in AA or Anti Infantry positions; but you have to pick one, and stick with it; AA has a higher angle and no sandbags so you can track the target.
- Tier 3: Idk Maybe HMG’s maybe Dual or single mount 15-25mm cannons.
- Tier 4-5: quadmount cannons, etc.;
perhaps call-ins for fighter sweeps that radiomen can use, with AI that is “hard mode”, not sure if DF is capable of doing that in a way that is “fun” though.
In a direct "plane vs AA gun fight, the plane usually wins, especially when it has rockets that have enough range.
AA guns need to be hard counters, which should force planes to fly low or do fast sweeps instead of them flying in a straight line towards their target.
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True.
Personally I’d give AA more range (both effective range of bullets and target indicator appearing further). So if you are a good pilot, you will manage to doge AA anyway but if you are a stupid and fly in a straight line, you will get shot to pieces.
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They should split it either:
A- Between the engineer squads with the Engi I being able to build the one we have now and Engi IIs the 4-barreled one
B- depending on the BRs with BRs 1-3 being able to build the
single-barrel one and BR 3-5 to build the Flakvierling
When I play LF on customs I just build aa guns and a at and just chill there for the rest of the match.
It’s rare a plane that survives.
This is not even hard to do (example)
Aa guns are on a decent place regarding damage.imo.
On topic, yeah would be nice to have more ammo on them. I agree
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Wait! You are cheating! (joke)
There is no way you managed to fire all 20 rounds continuously without overheating. Seriously though, what do I miss?
Maybe this
It’s not that hard 
Also no aa gun overheat in a single mag.
I’m dumb