Guess either our beloved Russian sub friends or the reddit scum didnt like it (NKVD seems to be okay though because logic).
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The swastika and ss runes in games are NOT forbidden anymore in the Reich… for almost four years now ffs.
And related symbols are rather stuff like the Black Sun.
At least I have not seen any sueing due to division symbols so far.
I mean we already have the SS in the game, we just dont call them SS.
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As far as I know, they are still illegal :
§ 86 StGB
I’m not sure how far it affects media like games and film. It mainly talks about the use of those symbols in public.
Pretty sure, Enlisted is a propaganda game, which has the goal to overthrow the democratic system of Germany and reclaim the Third Reich.
Anyway if you had read the whole act, you would know that anything concerning art, documentation etc. is allowed to use such symbols.
In a nutshell, since 2018 video games are on the same level as movies and are allowed to use nazi symbols etc.
But it doesnt matter for other countries anyway.
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Why do i see this as smth that would be behind a paywall?
wow I remember that retarded post that came up the other day, I cant believe it actually resulted in them pulling the model. That is insane. That is the cancel culture we live in today.
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Im appalled at the fact that very few are even educated on what the soviets did even while the nazis were still in power, let alone after the war.
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The special operation to denazify Enlisted and its community is over, and is a full success!
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If one guy noticed it, it can also be noticed by some retarded newspaper, or lawyer, or whoever else.
Gaijins really don’t like risking with anything that can possibly get their game banned.
Enjoy living in clown world.
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A general post about “its a law issue”.
Waffen-SS decals are already in this game, including their squad. @ColdHeat where are your complaints here?
1. 12th SS-Panzer Division "Hitlerjugend"
Also known as the “Hitlerjugend”. Known for committing massacres/ war crimes in Normandy during Overlord and during the Adrennes, killing at least 134 civilians and POWs (sccoding to other sources even around 150 Canadian POWs in the Normandy). Some of their leaders like Fritz Kaermer have a funny backghround story too.
2. 9th SS-Panzer "Hohenstaufen"
The softer brother of the Hitlerjugend. Known for shooting at Americans of the Red Cross and killing a bunch of POWs.
3. I SS-Panzer Korps
Also pretty damn soft for the SS. Ironically, Fritz Kaermer leaded the division as well during summer 1944. Idk if you need to include a division lead by a war criminal if you care about war crimes.
4. 17th SS-Panzergrenadier Division " Götz von Berlichingen"
Oh boy. Those little nasty boys were really naughty. Killing civilians or capitulating Germans, killing POWs and connections to the KZ Dachau.
5. 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne
More or less suceeded the Legion of French Volunteers Against Bolshevism, which was known for their brutal fight against the communist partisans in the occupied Ukraine and Belarus.
6. 11th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division Nordland (most likely)
Yepp. More SS in Berlin. Probably helped the Chetniks in Croatia to operate and raided and plundered villages in Serbia.
7. 10th SS Panzer Division Frundsberg
Nothing special here.
8. 32nd SS Volunteer Grenadier Division "30 Januar"
Remants of Hungarian and Romanian SS-volunteers.
So… why did Df release those units but suddenly realized that the SS Panther skin is too much or a legal issue?
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I guess visual symbolics means more for them.
As player maybe.
But I guess a lawyer wont care much if the symbol/ squad is visible in a match or just in the logistic screen.
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Right, seems like I was just not up to date.
A step in the right direction in my opinion.
Censorship in video games was terrible since the 90is, mostly if it comes to gore.
I’m Swiss and always avoided video games that have been translated to German.
Some made an uncensored German version for Austria and Switzerland, but not all companies.
And to censor symbols is just a joke, really.
They all will be delete tomorrow, thx i guess
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Meh. Like half of them are prem squads.
Dont get me wrong i agree
But people complaining “ItS nOt HiStOriCalY AcCurAtE” are just ………
We have bunnyhoppers with AVTs/AVS/FG/PPSH/MGs, planes crashing into the ground, fuckin explsion pack camikazes, and most people are like, thats fine, but this little symbol removed -“immersion ruined”
Nah those are Waffen-// units. None of those unit emblems in your pics even match any of the SS units.
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OP of that infamous thread here. I gotta say I have to share the disappointment but for quite different reasons as the OP of this thread here.
When I opened this thread I intended to warn about the actual legal issues this game was heading into as much as the (what I thought obvious) minefield of good taste this game was entering by adding the possibility to play as one of the most felonious units of the war. Apparently people have different opinions of whats appropriate or not to be played for entertainment reasons - which is totally fine - but there’s unfortunately hardly any debate about the legal issues which at least explains to me why Darkflow reacted that fast. And I don’t make these rules, I just inform about them.
I was honestly baffled by the hostility of reactions though - which were as far from having a constructive discussion about something as it’s virtually possible. So far I recall only polemics, insults (people even went as far as to PM me only to insult), prompts to leave the game, whataboutism, strawman argumentation and an overall getting worked up over something as trivial as two barely visible sig runes as if someone was about to steal something dear from then or “ruin their entire game”.
Most replies left the impression that people didn’t even bothered to read past the headline and just projected their anger or fear about “people trying to take something away” by instantly jumping to conclusions before even investing any effort of just reading properly, as if this thread would have the intention to turn the whole portrayal of the german faction in this game upside down. That made the threat rather tiresome extremely quickly due to that total lack of debate culture. And that mixture of hysteria and polemics is continuing into this very thread where the OP is on the one hand expressing his “immeasurable disappointment about the community” in a quite theatrical fashion while simultaneously jumping to conclusions by trying to paint the picture that I’m a “F2P who’s probably stop playing soon” vs the entire community". Let me tell you: I’m not.
In the end the simple matter of discussion was a barely visible “LSSAH” with two sig runes where you have to wonder:
A) Was it adding anything to the game to include that barely visible insignia in the first place?
B) Is it that much of a “they takin’ away my historical accuracy” issue to remove it and e.g. re-release the very same skin just without the legally problematic sig runes?
C) Is it clever to implement units to play into a game (even while having an actual war as an overall background) that are known historically for their amount of warcrimes when you have an enormeous array of other actual historical units to chose from (even Waffen-SS) which aren’t infamous for their warcrimes - or by simply using their camo but excluding the markings, which creates no legal issues and should still satisfy history fans?
It’s like the game added Joachim Peiper himself as a gold order hero, someone then mentions if that’s such a good idea and people go instantly like “BUT MA HISTORICAL ACCURACY!!”
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