So now i hunted another IL2 and fired 60x3 mags of 20mm in to his tail then 3x200 something 7mm in to his body asw and hes still flying around smooking…Wtf is this sht ?! He hit my fighter plane just a little when we got heads on once and got some piece of my wing but wasnt as much as i got in to him being behind him up close 80% of the time and my plane went out of oiloverheatage for a weird reason to just cause of that small hit on the wing that wasnt the fuel. Sure sometimes you can get lucky and hit that thing after 2 salvos of 120 rounds of 20mm along with 7s but why can they just small tap you and you get alot of damage both to your bomber and fighter when they can take like 300 rounds of 20mm in to their tail and body and still fly around and doing turns like nothing smooking asw…Their Armor is way to much in my opinion and if they get outsmarted you just dont have ammo to take it down if youre not lucky or have to pinpoint one of their engines
And no i wasent overheating my engine to add. I usually only use over speed when hunting someone then cool it off during the attacks
With IL-2 I usually go for the wings. Aiming at main body or tail ain’t gonna work.
yeah well i also suspect that there is bot planes with tons of armor ? since this pilot seemed a bit of odd just flying a bit straight…Now i killed an IL2 quite easy. Im confused rn
its not just the IL 2. plane damage models are kinda scuffed overall
Sounds to me like Steiner’s attack against the IL2 went poorly.
But yeah what Karl said. Plane models are scuffed and have been for awhile. At least theyre better now than they were 6 months ago
IL2 is called the “flying tank” for a reason. Its armor is amazing. But my 20mm mostly puts it to shame.
It does seem like models are sort of scuffed on some plane models. BF109, 110, IL2.
4 shkas MGs would tear apart a BF109, but here they really do mostly nothing
Went poorly ? i outmanouvered him 3 times and was like on his tail 7m away and hammered all my weapons in to him and it did jack sht. But he could just spray a tiny on my wing and i got oil heatage
Don’ bother with it unless you’re in a 110. Anything else just scratches it. With the 110 I just aim for the body and it breaks apart in 1 or 2 passes.
Well im using 109 BF and should be able to handle it pretty well since its an Lvl 15 Dogfighter against an lvl 7 Ground attack Plane but since it got 420 rounds with x2 20mm guns compared to the Lvl 15 109 that has 60 rounds x1 and same speed as the Dogfighter i would say its a hybrid.
What i mean is that an really tanky IL2 can take all those shots to the tail and body up close and still carry 420 rounds of 20mm 2 bombs and rockets but also are as fast as an dogfighter at lvl15…Does that make any sense ?
Well, the issue is that the 20mm on the 109 drains ammo way too quickly to be useful, so you have to rely on your 7.92s, which don’t do anything to IL-2s. The 110 has enough ammo to shred through the IL-2s armor and destroy it.
And btw, the IL-2 isn’t really just a lvl7 attacker. It’s good enough to be a lvl 25 or so reward.
And I don’t know what you mean by same speed, as the 109 is the 2nd fastest plane in moscow, only bested by the mig-3. The IL-2 is incredibly slow, while the 110 drains speed very quickly.
Yeah i was bit wrong with the stats since in game it was bugged. I know its a bit slower on the turns but sometimes they sure can catch you up for some strange reason even if your climbing.
The 7mm can do damage at times but you have to try to hit their cockpit/wings but most of all engines
also to add idk if the stats in game are real to…I had one IL2 turning behind me and was able to hold the turns even if i pumped the combat flaps and made sharp turns with catching speed in mind
Well, then you’re doing something wrong. The IL-2 turns well, but the most it ever reaches is 300km/h. Most of the time it’s around 200km/h. With the 109 you can very easily do around 400km/h, so if you dodge, you’ll get away easily. Your turn is also a bit better, but never exhaust yourself. The IL-2 can turn against you well at low speeds. Simply, if you start getting low on speed, just run and re-engage.
Overall though, I’d say german aviation isn’t too worth until you get the bf-110. That thing’s amazing. It struggles against I-153s, but that’s it. The 20mms shred planes and the 2x250kg bombs destroy both infantry and tanks.
Like i said i had the speed in mind and hense im pumping the flaps when needed. And no im usually getting behind the IL2 but was just stating that it can keep up for some weird reason. The stats says one thing the game another. Sure sometimes i do mistakes but those two instanses when someone turns around and still manage to catch me up flying out straight for once then the other managing to turn with me on fast turn arounds
That just seems weird. The speeds I stated are from personal exúerience flying both the 109 and the IL-2.
But this is about their armor. Sometimes they are easy to kill but there is times when you can sit up close behind them flying in one line and have to pump 3 mags of 60x20mm along with 7mm rounds in to them and they still can fly around like nothing happened while you can take 1-2 scrape shots and get red compartments
Yeah, the armor’s a bit much, but it’s historically accurate, so not much they can do.
Yeah its fair and i think Soviet controlled the air so guess thats fair. Im not saying that the BF is bad. Its a wonderful piece of plane hunter and you feel that powa when you get in there. However you get it way later then the russians to counter their air ^^ Sure the Biplane can be a fun hunter to but it takes a lot of bullets if you dont manage to hit the right places prop ^^ How ever the russians gets an counterplane to which also is an Dogfighter. Sure the Stuka is an wonderful tank hunter and will prob be better later when they implement the tail gunner but still