The Pak/KwK 40 and 76mm M1 have comparable penetration values. The US cannon has 12mm more penetration than the L/43 variants of he Pak/KwK 40.
The M4A2 and Jumbo 76mm variants get an APCR shell. These are excluded from the suggestion.
The M4A1 (76), M18 Hellcat and the Pz 4 tanks do not have access to APCR shells.
In terms of AP performance:
The high explosive performance of 76mm M1 HE shells is about 2/3s when compared to other BR 3 75-76mm cannons.
In terms of their platform:
The base reload of Pak/Kwk 40-equipped Pz 4s and the Hellcat are around 5.9s. The base reload of the 76mm M1 is 5.0s.
Neither Shermans nor P4s are sufficiently armored to tank hits from same-BR threats.
The Sherman variants have vertical stabilizers, the Pz 4 variants and Hellcat do not.
Pz 4s carry 50-100% more ammo in comparison to 76mm-equipped Shermans and the Hellcat.
The Hellcat’s mobility is largely moot in the confined and infantry-populated maps.
In summary:
The US 76mm cannon is more of a sidegrade that trade AP performance for more reliable AT performance. Pak/Kwk 40 equipped tanks compromise neither.
Allied tanks in BR 4 consequently compromise AP performance for AT performance in their tank shells whereas BR 4 German tanks such as the Pz 5 and Pz 6 offer no compromise other than slightly worse reload times. Their AP and AT performance remains the same, or are directly improved compared to their predecessor.
In short, move the APCR-less 76mm equipped allied tanks in BR 4 to BR 3.
Arent you forgeting that Shermans are way better armored than the panzer 4 here? Even if it is less impactfull against same BR threats it does protect against lower BR threats.
They dont even have such obvious weakspots as the turret
Also US APHE has twice the explosive filler making 1 shoots easier.
Shermans are very strong at their tier and at a tier below, but against tanks of a tier above they are sharply weakened against the Panthers and Tigers. Therefore, I agree only on tank destroyers, with thin armor, but a penetrating gun. Similarly, the Jagdpz4 with L70 should be lowered one tier.
Oh Yes
I once suggested on the ru forum to give all tank destroyers an extended zone as saboteurs, but only on the flanks
I also suggested separate cars that would have a direct zone like the saboteurs…
Who would have believed me that it could help them…
Between a cannon with significantly better HE performance and a faster reload speed, and a cannon with significantly better AT performance but slower reload speed, all I see is a tradeoff, not a step towards obsolescence.
Tradeoffs.
Nor do I understand you. I laid out my points. If you want to convince me otherwise, you’re free to engage with them.
It’s not needed as Sherman 75mm can easily defeat BR3 German vehicles and just bully BR2 Axis tanks that can’t pen it’s armor.
It would make Shermans with 75mm cannon irrelevant as 76mm cannons are really strong and can easily take out Tiger 2 just by flanking, Tiger 1 dies vs shells against the hull and Panther gets penned just as easily from the front and every German BR2-3 tank dies instantly no matter where you aim.
M18 is also too strong for BR3 and mediocre at BR4 there are no middle ground for that vehicle, that’s why you will have M10 downtiered - great 76mm cannon but also big penalty of it’s turret moving really slow which is fine for BR3 as you one shot every German tank of BR2-3 and can still destroy Panthers and Tigers if you play smart enough, even vs KT you can do just fine.
I wonder how many people would trade off versatility for slightly better anti infantry capabilities of 75mm shermans.
They may as well be better take 105 sherman at such point.
I don’t know, I’d think that would be obvious to everyone.
76mm shermans have stabilizer, 50 cal, better armor and better firepower than PZ IVs.
The m18 should be in BR3, but the Sherman 76? I’m not sure, this tank is something between BR3 and BR4, the Americans have decent tanks in BR3, so there’s no need to upset the balance.
I disagree with the Sherman 76 in BR3, but the M18 should be BR3, even the BT7 has more armor than the M18 XD, it also has an open roof and doesn’t have an MG next to the gun (it only has one MG on the roof), high speed is an advantage, but it’s useless in Enlisted.
I also did an interesting test, you can one-shot an M18 from the front with a PZB39.
That would make M10 completely irrelevant, M18 has barely any downsides (only one being open top) and it’s a pretty much a better M24 of BR2, everyone would be playing with M18 as it’s so fast with quick turning turret and great shell to destroy everyone even in uptiers. Armor is irrelevant as BR3 has Panzerfausts.
But what does Japan at BR3 have? Only inferior ultra slow tanks/TDs with anaemic turret turn speed that are 75mm at best and one of them have not just open top but also entire back is exposed which M18 could completely dominate with it’s great cannon.
So with this reasoning, Sherman 76 should be transferred to BR3!
The M10 has good armor, I’ve played several hands with the M18, it’s a big pain when your tank gets destroyed even by artillery! Or a 50kg bomb in a few meters will break your entire crew.
Japan always has bad tanks, we have to compare American tanks with German ones.
Then there’d be a sherman for every mood of the day. I still don’t see the problem.
You mean stabilizers that are only relevant when moving, or making shots from corner cover.
.50 cals that have been nerfed to irrelevancy
And armor that doesn’t work against same-BR threats.
A pathetically small ammo storage.
Which I guess doesn’t matter since it’s liable to die a very rapid death before it can expend all of them.
Sherman 76mm has 76mm cannon with fast turning speed + great APCBC rounds, stabilizer and upgraded armor so it’s a full package. Sherman 75mm is already too much for BR2 Ger/JP we don’t need to make their life even harder. And armor is only irrelevant for rocket launchers/bombs while tanks are struggling vs Shermans.
Skill issue, M18 can easily reposition with it’s superior speed. You act like M10 is not open top and can’t get destroyed by artillery. And what those poor souls can say? Not only they are completely exposed but are also ultra slow with even less armor than your M18
