I guess it all depends on how popular this new gun will be. I think mass use may cause problems with already awful AI.
I wonder what others think about this.
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I’m against it being add to the TT, unfact suppressed weapons shouldn’t be TT weapons at all
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I hadn’t even considered it that much, but yeah, one faction getting mass use of “Ignore AI Weapon 
” isn’t nessesarily the best thing for balance, let alone help the already struggling AI…
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Suppressed weapons in tech tree is a shit idea.
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Silenced weapons kinda just turn off the enemy AI.
So once the enemy team gets filled with bots (due to faction migration or deserter) the game will become even more onesided as none of the bots can shoot back.
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Not quite - they will still shoot you if they see you - but they won’t respond to being shot at by the weapon.
It’s one of the main reasons why i support it… AI will already turn to you out of nowhere while you are drawing a bead, i’ve had it happen multiple times and they are genuinely just janky.
On the other hand you can think of them killing your “useless” AI but i wouldn’t consider them that when it’s your 4 suppressed weapons vs my 9 man rifleman squad which completely invalidates your labeling.
The main reason I oppose it isn’t that it is TT and the others are not - that is relatively easily fixed one way or another.
It is that it is almost certainly a weapon that never existed at all - not even in prototype or drawing form.
THAT is a problem that is not so easily fixed.
I guess we play different games then. I think the only scenario when I get shot by AI is when I’m magdumping in front of bots and deliberately don’t take cover.
It is not shit idea.
Shit idea is to make them to have no significant negative tradeoff compared to normal weapons.
Like as the stats are now, there’s no reason for anyone to play classic ppsh over this new one.
I have no idea why obrez guns are so significantly worse without any added bonus. But silenced weapons with actual bonus gimmick have very pathetic stat decrease compared to normal weapons.
Just make them to have very harsh dmg drop off or something.
Obrez with silencer could work as it already has much worse base dmg so you have to deal more dmg to kill enemies. While PPS-41 drum Silenced has just 0.1 less dmg so it has zero downsizes of not using a silencer, you pretty much are required to buy them instead of basic unsuppressed PPSh-41 drum.
Drop dmg of PPS-41 (S) by 0.8 just like Obrez and it would be fine but then give other nations similar weapons in a TT.
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Yes, that’s basically my opinion. There has to be significant tradeoff for silencer. Not just gimmick one.
It is a shit idea.
I don’t want a situation where every 2nd squad i fight is rocking silenced guns. I don’t even want people to have that option.
Silenced weapons are a perfect example of things which should in my opinion, regardless of their performance, stay as event rewards / premiums to keep them rare.
Profileration of these types of gimmick guns cheapens the game and ruins the immersion even further.
So, putting the silenced ppsh on an event guerilla squad or some shit? OK. TT? Shit idea.
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Just because you hold some kind of pseudo dogma, it doesn’t mean it’s shit idea.
I think it’s pretty shit idea to not have in TT 
Pseudo dogma and a shit idea.