You could also just uparmor the 4h instead -.- since m72 is an awful shell which is why tankers, both irl and in war Thunder, don’t use it
me too, was suprised i had to face jumbo face to face with pz4h while the only penetrable spot is just few pixel in the gunport
frontally the cheek still penetrable otherwise flank it, if failed it’s completely your fault, L2P, it still possible, if it possible then it completely balanced
L2P, mate, US weaponary are crazy overpowered
M10 is enough, aim the cheeck, flank with it, if failed it’s completely your fault, L2P, stop whinning, it still possible, if it possible then it completely balanced
Infantry side he said, to which he isn’t really wrong since mg34 and fg exist while most players would rather stick to the garand and the m2 as far as I remember, I only saw an m2 carbine one time outside of my usage and that was yesterday yeah they get piat but that is only good against tanks

Infantry side he said, to which he isn’t really wrong since mg34 and fg exist while most players would rather stick to the garand and the m2
Just flank them, no need to QQ about it
Jesus man I’m not here to start an argument if you want that go back to that topic you almost had a heart attack in
to the us getting super persh
… It’s a tank I’d really like to see though… So I could do like in this historical footage:
There’s no reason not to see it somewhere in some campaign eventually. It turned big mean panthers into house cats
It would be cool but I used super persh as a comparison since both tanks will be able to lolpen existing tanks
Not quite, iirc the “super” Pershing was a single specimen which was upgunned and uparmored with literally bits of armor stripped off a Panther.
yep,you"re right
I’d be fine even with regular Pershing… It’s a beautiful machine to me.
Although it would probably better suited for another campaign… If there is another (Ardennes? Further, even?) With Usa vs Germany one. I can dream, eh 🤷
I mean if they put Siegfried line campaign then it’s possible for both Pershing and panthers to duke it out
then stop whinning and git gud 🤷

Infantry side he said, to which he isn’t really wrong
i already told you, M2 vs Fg42, MG34 vs BAR are fair trade, CQC vs mid-long range, ammo (CQC) vs controllability (mid-long range)
meanwhile i occasionally meet someone who use BAR or M2 even i had chance to stole the weapon but never seen anyone use Sturmpistole in my team

i already told you, M2 vs Fg42
Except both of them have the same rof, so FG is better for close range and longer ranges especially when fulled maxed since m2 will not get an rof increase unlike FG

MG34 vs BAR are fair trade
Mind clarifying since MG has better controllability, and more ammo in the mag making it both a good cqc and mid range, yeah you get longer reload but that wouldn’t be an issue if the enemy is dead and you hide behind corners you could also use secondary slot for a bolt action self defense weapon though yeah I can agree that Sturm isn’t the best at weapon

17 pounder of the Firefly would fit better, or even the 90mm gun of a Jackson.
— but then again, those tanks are kinda more like designated “tank hunters” and shouldn’t be compared with the panther to begin with.
Not only that, but one is British, and just like the Jumbo, Jackson was not present in Normandy campaign. It arrived on the battlefield in September 44.

What are the top tier sherman tanks that existed?
well, E8 and Jumbo with longer gun.
Either A3E2 Jumbo variant was not present in the battle of Normandy. I am 100% against the idea of using fantasy tanks.
There are many variants of the M4 (76). M4A3E8 (W) HVSS is just one of them, which is, essentially the W variant (different suspension) of the M4A3 HVSS (wide tracked M4A3). It can be either one of these. A3 variant would be good enough to generate bounces against the long 75mm if angled. And the 76 is powerful enough to pen consistently penetrate the lower glacis or the turret of the Panther, which is where it is recommended to shoot to take out the gunner anyway.
Another option (overpowered against infantry, I suppose) would be the 105mm M4A3.

Tanks like a Panther or Tigers and Fireflys or Jacksons and Jumbo shermans would fit something like battles at the Rhein or belgium soo much better.
Tigers would make much more sense in later, Eastern Front campaigns, such as Byelorussia, Poland or in Berlin, or as you mentioned, in much later Western front campaigns, so that the could face equivalent tanks (such as Pershing or the IS 1 or IS 2).

Mind clarifying since MG has better controllability, and more ammo in the mag making it both a good cqc and mid range
This is absolutely wrong. The bar is much more easier to control precisely because you have the option to use semi or low rate of fire modes. MG beats the BAR only if you can mount it somewhere, which is very situational, thanks to Normandy maps being filled with grass. You also do not have as great movement and stamina penalties with the BAR as you do with the MG.
And yet you can still assault rifle with it, I know this since I have it on Berlin it, and the speed is a non issue since you return to normal speed by just pulling out your knife.
Because weapon change time does not exist. Common man, I know it and you know it, this is an extremely daft argument. You cannot fire while sprinting, and being quicker while running and shoulder firing is an excellent advantage to both take down baddies and be less likely to get hit.
And you rarely if ever need to pistol or knife sprint, because you are immediately getting into firefights after a respawn, unless you are one of those extremely annoying scrubs who never bother building spawn beacons/rally points close to where they need to assault the objective and who justify their stupidity with nonsense like “playing well or winning does not matter, I play for fun, but I also like to whine about weapon balance and not being able to compete, and I do not care I sound like a cognitive dissonant idiot”, while wasting half of the game running around instead of shooting stuff, and getting murdered because they cannot figure out there is a rally point in the area, churning out enemy squads.

Except both of them have the same rof, so FG is better for close range and longer ranges
except FG42 full auto recoil is so unbearable even mounting wont make it recoilless like MGs

especially when fulled maxed since m2 will not get an rof increase unlike FG
which is almost impossibel if you are not spending some cash for maxed FG42

Mind clarifying since MG has better controllability, and more ammo in the mag making it both a good cqc and mid range, yeah you get longer reload but that wouldn’t be an issue if the enemy is dead and you hide behind corners
you could also use secondary slot for a bolt action self defense weaponthough yeah I can agree that Sturm isn’t the best at weapon
i told you this many times i just amazed how you forget about it after few days
i use MG34/42 all the time for CQC it’s really good but the recoil is however super bad because the RoF is super high causing it to consume ammo super fast making you wont realize you’ve shoot 30 bullet just for 1 guy in the corner because you were panic
meanwhile i stole BAR and it is pretty much the opposite because slow auto mode is super helpful saving a lot of ammo and reducing a lot of recoil good for mid-long range and kinda bad for CQC but still reliabel unlike MG34/42 mid-long range ability

except FG42 full auto recoil is so unbearable even mounting wont make it recoilless like MGs
So is m2’s

which is almost impossibel if you are not spending some cash for maxed FG42
And you don’t think people won’t spend money??

meanwhile i stole BAR and it is pretty much the opposite because slow auto mode is super helpful saving a lot of ammo and reducing a lot of recoil good for mid-long range and kinda bad for CQC but still reliabel unlike MG34/42 mid-long range ability
That is BARa2 not BARa1 with BARa1 being statistically similar to FG which how do that I remember I used the same math you used for the actual fire rate