Hürtgen Forest

Honestly I’m not 100% serious about this but I think Hürtgen Forest would be a fun map (for the Germans) with bunkers and high amounts of trees, the map would be bad for tanks (maybe add a path for them to drive on), stops planes from getting to close to the ground, but infantry should thrive here.

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We already have that and it’s just pure fake made up map while real Hurtgen was full of undriveable terrains, pillboxes and bunkers everywhere, mines every 5m, czech hedgehogs at every corner of the street.

The terrain, tough enough already, had steep, wooded heights
reaching up 1,000 feet and packed with firs and fast-flowing
little streams racing through the tight valleys. But for the attacker, the Hurtgen Forest was made even more difficult by the
German fortifications: concrete pillboxes and bunkers fronted by
“dragon’s teeth,” with interlocking fields of fire, concrete stumps
to stop the advance of tracked vehicles, and extensive minefields
filled with the dreaded “Schu” mine, which couldn’t be detected
using the mine detectors of the time, and “bouncing Bettys,”
known more crudely by the troops who suffered them as “deballockers.” These crude devices, with a series of metal balls that
exploded to about waist height, had devastating results when
detonated. One survivor said many years later: "We called it a
50-50 mine. The name was derived from your chance once you
trod on it. If you hit it with your right foot, the rod flew up your
right side. If you hit it with your left, you’d end up singing
tenor!"1

To guard the right flank of his main attack, Collins proposed
to send an American force into the deep Forest to root out the
second-rate German division (at first, in September, the 353rd
Infantry Division, and later, in October, the 275th Division)
that held it. No one was ever able to figure out why, then or now. For by sending troops into the forest, Collins lost the mobility
and superiority that his tanks and aircraft had given him so far.
Among the thick, tight rows of trees his fighter-bombers, Shermans, and artillery hardly made themselves felt, while the shelter
afforded by the same woods and their network of bunkers lent
strength to the at first irresolute defenders.
It was a fatal mistake, perhaps the greatest one made by the
Americans in the eleven-month campaign in Europe. It was
condoned by all the Top Brass, right up to Supreme Commander
General Eisenhower himself, none of whom got within ten miles
of the actual fighting in the dark, bloody maws of the Hurtgen
Forest. It was a mistake compounded by the various divisional
commanders, who really knew what was going on. They saw
their divisions going into the forest to fight, on average, for two
weeks before being pulled out of the line—decimated. These
divisional commanders lost half their men, yet not a single
commanding general ever registered a protest.

Dutifully and
obediently they sent their handful of veterans and large numbers
of callow replacements to an almost certain death (if they were
infantry) without once objecting to the futility of the exercise.
Week in, week out, month after month, the slaughter went on
from 1944 right into 1945. It would become perhaps the greatest
bloodletting in the history of the U.S. Army in Europe in World
War II. Yet in the final analysis, the six-month-long battle for
what was to become known as the Green Hell of the Hurtgen did
not affect the course of the war at all. The slaughter of America’s
youth there was totally and absolutely unnecessary. As the commander of the 82nd Airborne, Gen. “Slim Jim” Gavin, whose
division was to take part in the last of the Hurtgen fighting,
would say contemptuously after the war, it was "a battle that
should not have been fought."12

Finally i could reach 0% WR with Americans instead of usual 62% :joy:

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Yeah, the current “Hürtgen Forest” we have ended up being a bit disappointing for me. Yet, I think one map is enough for now. How about Cologne instead? Or a random west German village maybe for the Allies to fight Germany. Personally I’d like some map inspired by Operation Market Garden, I think it’s about time they gave us one. But more focused on the urban battles like Arnhem and such. Because I sure as hell don’t want to capture a damn bridge too far like in Seelow.

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^ This.

We are sorely lacking an Arnhem battlefield.

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I don’t think I’ve ever gotten that map

We have received fake version of Hurtgen like i just said. One of Ardennes map in Enlisted are “Hurtgen”.

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So like how Eats Hürtgen is just a town?

imagine if we would have air spawn for that

Nah, best we can do is one lonely transport plane.

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