How to prevent grey zone camping with tanks

I think to prevent tanks from camping in the grey zone, force them to move close to the objective or the countdown timer auto blows their tank up if they stay in the spawn area for too long.
But to prevent them from just heading to the objective and attempting to go back to the spawn area reset the timer and abuse it,
the countdown timer doesn’t reset, so if they go back to the spawn area, it counts down back to where it left off and they instantly still blow up.
This would fix greyzone camping, especially with tanks.

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One of the worst ideas was making explosion packs a basketballs.

Because “if demo packs will get nerfed, tanks will rush to objective and cover infantry”.

Eventually - tanks were still camping in greyzone… not because they afraid enemy infantry, but because of better visibility :eye:

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The best encouragement for moving forward and not to camp is to give ground vehicles option to actually cap objectives.

It wasn’t any problematic in BF series. And in enlisted, literally every soldier can have very effective EPs.

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So what happens when you are hellcamped and you can’t get out of your grayzone?

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Ridiculous protests and stupid nerfs as always
As I said elsewhere
You should try to use infantry to fight them deep into the gray zone for 15 to 20 seconds
Or use other means to fight them (airplanes, tanks, anti-tank guns, smoke)

Instead of crying about describing yourself as a victim and creating unreasonable projects to satisfy your selfish desires and incompetence that refuse to use other tactics

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“How to prevent tanks from grey-zone camping” - problem as old as the game itself, with the same old solution:

  1. Stop being poor
  2. Use plane to kill a tank
  3. Use kamikaze plane if skill issue

Not a bad idea from the OP. My suggestion would be to give the tanks a 60 second timer to get out of the gray zone, and then make it so they can never go back at all.

The gray zone, from what I can tell, is there to protect people from being spawn camped and give player a reasonable chance to get into the game and then get into the fight. It’s silly that tanks get to be the exception the rule and that it’s a rock/paper/scissors answer to what otherwise is a fair game.

“LTP!! And use a plane.”

Sounds like this post is being defended by people who like sniping from tanks.

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Well, atm there’s no way how to tell if you’re still in grey zone or not. There’s no indication.

So it’s not like mosf of campers do greyzone camp on purpose.
They just spawn, move few meters. Immediately spot the enemy and start shooting at them.

If they’re not inpatient and aggressive players like me, they simply do not have any reason to move forwards.

I really doubt the protection from the grey zone is something majority of them are taking into consideration at all.

It is not difficult at all to deal with grey zone camper, if you actually know what are you doing.

So reading rant posts like this one all the time is getting quite annoying. And thus similar aggressive answers are pretty understandable.

Btw. It’s way easier to deal with grey zone campers than with spawn campers.
Plus OP’s suggestion is complete nonsense. Since tanks do have replenishment/refill points in grey zone. And they do need option to get there. Without any threat of getting blown up, lol.

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Yeah, yeah. Without grey-zone all tank destroyers and some tanks with slow turrets (Panzer III J) might be removed as well, because they will be useless.

" I really doubt the protection from the grey zone is something majority of them are taking into consideration at all." - That’s fair - and certainly possible. And yes, it’s true about not knowing where that line is, and lord knows, in my experiences, it’s pretty freaking screwy. How being behind the enemy can find the game forcing you to turn around is truly absurd.

If the only solution is a plane, then, as I said, it becomes rock/paper/scissors. It also means that there will obviously be MANY times when that solution doesn’t work. If it did, you wouldn’t get all the complaining posts, nor would you see people continue to do it.

But it’s not. It’s just the simplest and most straightforward way.
If you’re skilled enough, you can just use your AT rocket launcher and snipe them. I do it all the time.
(Unless you’re playing for the US faction, which has extremely poor AT capabilities overall, not counting aircrafts ofc).

If you don’t have that skill. You can always build an AT gun or take your own tank.
You really don’t need high enough penetration to get rid of greyzone camper.
Just aim for his cannon. And once you destroy it, focus on his tracks.
Then his tanker has to jump out of the tank and repair it. Either they fix only the tracks (which he can do safely from behind the tank) and then move the tank behind the horizon to fix the main gun.
But that’s basically never gonna happen. Because campers, by nature, are always lazy. So they try to go in front of the tank with their tanker to fix the main gun. Then you just kill him.
It usually repeats until you wipe out his entire crew. Idk why tbh. But it worked for me basically always.

Btw. They often get out of the tank with the whole crew, because they probably don’t even know they have the option of exiting with only one crew member.
The skill level of the campers is honestly not very high.

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when I played beta back when it first came out, I can tell you it was possible at least I swear it was, they quickly patched it out.

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Also not very applicable to the US.

That’s why I said you don’t need penetration at all.

Anyway, US truly does need better AT weapons. But that’s kinda completely different topic.

Well. Yeah. Personally, I don’t find knocking out the cannon, then tracking and then crew-killing a tank with an AT cannon (US cannon) to be very satisfying or often to have a high likelihood of success. You have to be set up in a really protected spot or against a completely useless team to have time for that. Works sometimes, but when you include the time to build the cannon it’s just not a very high return on investment to play this strategy.

well, this is the last time I’m gonna bother making suggestions to forums since the forum base is full of people who can’t be on the same level as everybody else and accept new ideas. The game is as good as dead with the cancerous player base. also, devs never listen to anybody… according to a Twitch user who has talked to them. he says they agree with him on stuff but never do a damn thing about it.

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Reason why i like Confrontation mode more. The only mode that forces grayzone camper to move forward or backward or get explosion pack in your deez nut. If i get invasion mode i see tank in grayzone, i just quit. Problem solved

Don’t be dramatic.

You got some wehraboos excited.

That said, I think that, generally speaking, ideas that massively alter gameplay or people’s inventory/weapons/squads are not typically well received (e.g. limit explosive packs to AT only).

I’m not exactly a fan of your suggestion though I hate grayzone tanks. But… the notion that they are easy to deal with using AT weapons or AT guns is faction relative and all the people who don’t play US simply ignore that.

Why would we want to prevent tanks from camping in grey zone in first place? Tanks are meant to fight from a distance not meant to fight close up and the maps are only so big. Like many other people said there are many other ways to take out a tank so why are you relying on a infantry explosive packs to take it out? Lets not be lazy to think outside the box, so we don’t end up grieving if we don’t like challenges…Its war its not always meant to be fair…

The point a few people have made is that with KT2 vs USA, there aren’t many options. Bombing from plane (not HVARS) is nearly it if they are in the grey zone.