How much armor does KV1 actually have?

Not really, basically the only area where you can bounce it with Pz IV is here:

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I dont know about Warthunder, but just go check Enlisted armor screen, there are alot of overlapping armor pieces for KV1 - and two 75mm of armor plates together are logically not penetrable by L48

Warthunder says its 90mm for mantlet of KV1.

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interesting, I guess Enlisted and Warthunder have different armor models?

Nah they have the exact same, in fact when T-50’s armour was corrected, the changing rolled out for both basically at the same time.

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Isn’t that the KV-1 zis-5 while KV-1 (L-11) which is BR3 is only 75mm armour?

no I just checked - regular KV1 gun mantlet indeed has 90mm of armor, but the “roundish” sides of the gunmantlet overlap with the regular frontal plate - which makes those areas have at least 150mm of armor.

so basically KV1 turret armor has:
either 90mm of armor of which only a very small area is penetrable because the top part is angled AND overlaps with 75mm of armor

or two overlapping 75mm plates at the side of the gun mantlet

or the small rim of the turret that isnt shielded by its gun mantlet which does have 75mm of armor - BUT is a very small hitbox because most of it overlaps with the also 75mm plates from the sides of the turret.

I honestly never realized this, but around 80% of its total turret surface has above 150mm of effective armor. This is crazy.

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Everyday I wonder if there is a single dev left that cares about balance?

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well I do see KV1 balance now very different, but I really dont like the idea of it being BR4. I for the past years always believe it had 75mm of armor, I really had no idea.

I need a lot of time to think now…

How do dev replace the cannon in the first place? You will just get another tank.
The closest tank you can get is kv-85 but it has different turret and weaker hull armor.

Dev literally did modify weapons and vehicles multiple time?

Weird comparison, the problem of these 2 equipment is not that they need modification, it is that they shouldn’t have such counterpart in the first place.

Typical soviet bias and yet they will mock us that it’s just “skill issue”. Armored turret shot = damage only to a gun while nothing will get damaged past that and KV-1 will just move his turret and one shot your little panzer tank. Gun not red = i can shoot and destroy you in a single hit.

When soviet weapon/vehicle is stronger = skill issue
When German weapon/vehicle is stronger = unfair

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The fact that you apparently don’t know anything about angling.

Perhaps it hit there, perhaps it didn’t - we still don’t actually know where it hit because no replay has been provided.

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