How many times has it happened to you?

in CQC context, you go with an smg the enemy with boltie
you start shooting, game gives you 2 hitmark on enemy, but enemy manages to kill you in 1 shot from boltie rifle
:rage: :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage:

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That’s why you need to aim for head.

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imo all weapons should deal at least knock down damage in 10m mark, same with pistols, they’re quite useless you’re better of with your rifle

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this would give automatic weapons overwhelming advantage and make BA and even SA weapons almost useless…

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who shot first should win.
no matter the weapon.

Lol happen everytime tbh especially on high br if you miss for 1 sec you are dead so yea go for like above the chest it will do more damage iirc

And maybe lean too sometimes it help

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last time it happened to me with a grease gun

no , automatic weapons are for cqc
and rifles for long medium distances.

in cqc smgs should shine over rifles.
if i shoot you with an smg 2 times you are done
you cant just shoot me back.

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smg already shine over rifles in cqc. that is why meta is smg/AR/SF and not BA/SA.

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but ive been owned by boltie after two shots of my smg.
how do you explain that ?

idk why i should explain that. smg should give you advantage in cqc, not insta victory. otherwise if you had 30+ bullets that could insta knock down anyone with one bullet, you could easily clear cap with one smg magazine.

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i would only increase damage in very close distances.
the rest should stay the same.

well yeah playable area & objectives would have to become bigger to compensate which I guess is not going to happen, playing big action mod I love that frag grenade is a freaking FRAG grenade and it feels like it has twice the range as main game has it feels awesome and strong, in main game not so much everything is weak and nerfed to ground

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Browning Hi-Power is already nuts in BR2 matches lol

wonders of health upgrade
You really want to get a set of low tier but usable SMGs you can get and upgrade them fully, the difference is night and day: +20% (i think) damage, better ROF, better accuracy

For soviets PPS-43 is the best until you get to BR5
For USA I’d go with Lanchester but it’s a bit more up to your playstyle
For germoney Beretta M1 or MP40 (or FNAB if you are a total freak)
For Japan it’s either Type 2a for versatility or 7.65mm MP28 if you can lock in and headshot everyone, otherwise that gun has such clown damage falloff you might as well be shooting nerf darts

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Try to clear an entire room with one 5 rounds bolt action.

Then try again in the same context with a 30+ rounds fast firing smg.

Now tell us again what shines the most.

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burn-elmo

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all my weapons are upgraded.
thing is you dont survive 2 shots of a grease gun
in CQC to kill me with a boltie.

it depnds of the players in the room
is there only one real player and his squads of stupid bots ?
or 2 players and their squads ?

cause if its the last case your are going to be distracted killing stupid bots while the other player takes your time to aim at you.

is not about clearing the room
is about surviving shots at close distances.

Get hit in the shoulder with a 30-06 or 8mm Mauser and it’ll blow your arm off. Chest, forget it.

Most SMGs in the game are pistol caliber. It’s not like the movies. People don’t drop immediately from a 9mm. Aim for the head and stop complaining.

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depends where you shoot :stuck_out_tongue:

also it has worst TTK out of all meta low BR guns
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well with vitality mp40 still outperforms it in cqc

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