How Adding Clan related features only benefits them. However, Improving Mods & Custom matches will benefit everyone else and clans included

He’s just typing random bullshit at this point, he (she ? / it ? sorry i stopped following) know there is no meaning on what he’s crying about

i’m starting to think you are right.

if you are struggling this bad with a simple post where everyone is layed out.

i do not think i can be of much assistance.

rather than:

Custom Content = appeasing more people of all sort
Clans = appeasing a very minor minority / aka only themselves.

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" he " ?

so much for reading i suppose.

but it’s interesting how apparently you aren’t part of any clans allegedly, yet be so defensive while having 0 arguments to hold for it.

i’m sure they will thank you for… nothing.

PS :

https://forum.enlisted.net/en/u/ErikaKalkbrenner

For Mod Commissions:
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( FYI, i accept only donations within enlisted shop. no paypal or any of that. but of course, don’t feel obliged. )

I do understand now why is he trying to push his idea

i’m afraid i’m not really who you think i am.

but it’s okay.

beside, some people did offered comissiones for donations so…

the more you know :wink:

Oh so you are being deliberately obtuse or have the memory of a goldfish lmao.

I said:

To which you responded:

How does that make sense? And when I expressed confusion, you said:

Please explain.

Please make a guess, make me laugh :joy:

well, you’ve implied ( much like this fox person ) that i’m a " they ".

but no.

believe it or not, i’m actually a woman.

but i can see how i might have misinterpreted.

i gues… i’m sorry for your olive branches?
i don’t know.

I’m not awaiting any thanks, even less cash :kissing_heart:

so much for reading i suppose.

well, if they did, i would ask for a refund :joy:

but we’re getting beside the point.

none of you still have a point.

other than being selfish.

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Aaaaaaah I gotcha. Sorry, in English we use “they” when gender is unknown. I have seen you referred to as “he” and “she” but never seen you say for yourself so I just went with neutral “they”.

The olive branch thing was me trying to make peace with you since this is an entirely one-sided hatred and even offering to support your suggestions/ideas because I also am pro-mods/customs. But all I am met with is open hostility.

I guess you think you do after all that “dyslexic” garbage ? :sweat_smile:

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i see.

sorry, as much i am often reasonable than … perhaps in this thread i might have let of.

there’s nothing that can be done.

as much you guys aren’t actual developers and holding it against you might be wrong, i am one holding grudges for how mishandled you and your fellow clan members have been.

it may come off as petty.

but yes. modders have been waiting for much longer than your clan even existed.
again, nothing against clans. ( otherwise i wouldn’t part of… one and a half )

custom content is way more beneficial than clans.
i suppose all the gaslighting and lying from developers didn’t helped.

but to be rugged of by the newly acquired CM in favor of clans, there are people way more upsetted than me. and i might add, rightfully so.

after all, just like the CM has got his job, modders have been loyal too.
so, they do have ( … or should have ) priority over clans.

because again, most of the stuff is there.
just need official support.

since you guys also uses customs.
and customs with mods can do nothing by wonder for everyone involved.

I’m being selfish by understanding that good players wants to play against good players ?

Tbh i don’t even know what to respond to this
it’s too much logical for my “dyslexia”

i didn’t know i strucked a nerve there.

i apologies if i did.

i mean, was i wrong though?

anyway, as i exlained.

that is a very tiny minority.

most players in this game are casuals.

they do not care about " competitive " pvp where for the most part it’s PVEVP.

and unlike modders with custom content, said people can pretty much fight each other over customs.

so i have no idea what’s your problem.
other than… the one we already talked about.

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There is a lot of uncertainty on this topic. I think everyone here would like an official answer as to why it hasn’t been done yet, just for people to feel like they are being listened to, or just to put things into perspective. Even a reason like : it will be done after x and y is fully implemented, so at least you get some ideas.

I suggest you watch the enlisted official stream next friday because if you ask your question there you will probably get some sort of response that will help you understand why things are the way they are and what can you expect to happen. Are they actively working on it? was it considered not important / not feasible so they delayed it?

But you should also understand that you are causing arguments by how you are phrasing things and you are less likely to be taken into consideration by doing so. Clans are not your enemy, making content for clans , which by the way , there hasn’t been anything added for clans except the stability of the custom servers ,but I think we can all agree that particular change made things better for both clans and custom games enjoyers.

Actually, I would go ahead and say that change benefiited the custom server players more than the clan players since clans wars and tournaments don’t happen every week but players are enjoying custom servers daily. But for that change to the custom servers , that happened on the 23.12.2024 you have the clans to thank for since we sent multiple clogs, recordings and we complained about it over and over and over again. The popularity of custom games that you keep bringing up , somehow did not translate in people asking for better custom servers.

I hope you understand that you are not approaching the topic properly right now

I guess I don’t see it as a 0 sum game. I think both can be worked on concurrently (maybe I am delusional). I think the fixes for customs and proper modding support will require much more effort from DF. Current tools are extremely barebones and disappointing.

Meanwhile the clan system will likely be another import from WT where it’s just a clan tag + some social stuff that benefits everyone like squad messaging/DMs. This will take way less effort or time for DF than overhauling their customs/modding tools.

DF probs see the clan thing as an “easy” win so they put it on the plan (not even officially but as a consideration) to score some brownie points. Like you said, clans are a relatively small (but dedicated) group so if they don’t carry through, nothing is lost, and if they do they will get easy praise.

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Exactly this. The clans raised the issue regarding custom server instability, the CM reached out and asked us to stress test the customs and provide our .clogs. EVA and U45N organized and played a set of three customs with 20 players and provided nearly 60 .clogs to the devs. And it worked, the devs figured out what was happening and increased the stability of the servers. Went from always lagging at the start, having really bad hitreg, and being generally unplayable to being mostly stable.

The clans have the manpower to help support and test things. @EVA_Evo is hosting custom games that are open to all and plans to host modded maps as well to expose more players to them. We’re all on the same side here.