Ho-Ri "production" and "prototype" are fictional

Lol then suggest a better tank to balance it instead of calling dev lazy but didn’t come out with a replacement.

Germany don’t need a Nazi UFO to counter other faction so this example is invalid.

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I highly agree but Japan will never make it past BR2-3 if they were forced to use non-prototype/blueprint type designs. Personally that’s not a huge issue for me but I do think it is worth noting.

Not really, they can just add the Hino-Komuro M1904 to br4 instead of putting it on battle pass and bring type4 rifle to br3.
The reason of Japan having so many overtiered stuff is because dev are too hurry to get Japan to br4 when releasing the merge. In fact if they set Japan on br3 then slowly expand to higher br, there will be no such problem.

So a BR3 exclusive sandbox that is hardly fair, too late now they can’t just steal back BR 45 gear

Since you mentioned about assymetrical balancing it is time to introduce the Type 97 AT Rifle with the Ji-Te Dan shaped grenade charge. It can penetrate up to 250 mm of armour.


Source: Japan Small Arms Balancing Discussion Thread - #66 by Killerwolf1024

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Adding things that did not even exist in real life is definitely not the solution.

Kids whined that USSR needed a STG clone, so we got Fedorov (WW1) and AS (never used in WW2) in tech tree.

Kids whined that USA needed a FG clone, so we got T20 (never used in WW2) in tech tree.

Subsequently, Japan needed their FG clone so we got AutoHei (never used in WW2).

Besides, the devs decided to go full clownfest and we apparently needed a Tommy 50 clone – Tokyo Arsenal (never used in WW2) and the disgusting Ho-Ri (straight up fictional).

Now some kids are whining that USSR needs a Tiger 2 clone (T-44, IS-3 or T-55 “prototype”) so we might be on the verge of yet more stuff that was never used in WW2.

Then eventually Japan is put against USSR, but USSR has T-55 now…

So what will Japan get then?
M1 Abrams prototype?

If anybody’s constantly whinning, it is you.

It’s absolutely ridiculous how you keep on bashing real historical prototypes as if they are not part of history and are fake.

Prime example of childish behavior, pushing one stupid dogma 24/7.

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This is the part that’s always confused me about the Ho-Ri being fake is that, there was a wood mockup, there was a gun tested and we had the chassis that would have been adapted to it.

Like there’s parts but not the whole, and the TD program existed. At worse it’s purely a paper tank but it existed in some basis of reality though right ?

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They have Super C. Tokyo Arsenal. Katana.

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The gun is real
But the tank it self have never been built

It’s just a model even if this picture is real
Just look at the track

This page is just a mess
The text is about another tank Hi-Ro Sha but the title is Type 2(?) Ho Ri
Those are completely different tank
Ho-Ri is TD based on type 5 Chi-Ri
Hi-Ro Sha is based on type 95 heavy tank from that source
And the picture just mixed several completely different designs together
How reliable
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Too late. But what they really can do, is make map filters. And that way, at least one doesn’t need to deal with this and other jap magic weapons.
Now I’m one for things being unbalanced, and in WW2 games. But this is silly.

Yes unrelated tanks that use identical tracks

What identical tracks

. . . bad pictures/drawings near identical, Ho-Ri 1 three return wheels, eight road wheels on four arms. jiro/hiro sha four return wheels, nine road wheels eight on four arms but none of that matters but one fact many later tanks were literally built from the hulls of earlier tanks, look me in the eye and tell me you cannot make a ho ri from a hiro sha or jiro sha , still the site was both wrong and confusin so you get 6.5 points of ten and i get the remaining 3.5 math out who wins

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Lol here we go again with more exaggerations.

You probably mean T44-100, it is just exaggeration to call it a T-55 prototype.
Ho-Ri can pen it from the turret cheeks.

Another exaggeration, it is clearly not the counterpart of M1 Abrams prototype.

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And HoRi clearly never existed.

Then what’s the difference again?

Hiro-sha is the proto prototype Jiro-sha (and are ‘real’) which would have led to the ho-ri I II but yeah they fake as hell

M1 Abrams will not be needed for balance.

It is just funny that the examples you listed to counter the balance argument are the one that are not needed for balance.

Similarly, when you need “balance”, you can’t just invent vehicles that never existed