Historical BR Overhaul

Like i said earlier. In this system, just put the fedorov at 2 so it would have to fight the mkb. And it would still he able to participate in an early war battle such as stalingrad.

Honestly, that seems lazy. Perhaps add in the vistula offensive and that would be more like it. Because the maps from moscow and stalingrad are already in our heads as the campaigns they originally were before the merge.

Oh, right you tried to justify ppsh & fedorov in low BR with mkb.
Doesnt really matter either way you want it.
MKB vs new comers with BA’s is absolutely retarded idea just like the ppsh & fedorov.

Nonexistent issue requires nonexistent fixes.

Well the newcomers that were on this thread were ok with it. And GiltBurrito did say too for the new players to make a queue regarding the ranks to seperate them from the vets.

Here

Yeah, still dumb.

You mean the newcomer, the one with xbox icon and earliers join date ?

Yeah, we cant even have BR1-2 que BR3-4 que and BR5 que due to low playerbase.

And now you expect to divide the game in even further with timelines and top of that somekind of separate que for newcomers ?

Yeah best of luck with that, some sort of skillbased matchmake has been asked for ~2-3 years.

The first system was impossible for lack of war theatre, a new players with early grind stuff would 100% of time face Endgame equipment in normandy or berlin because, because almost all good weapon was checked for this two area alongside some early grind one

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In its base form yes, it was bare bones. But there was already a preference system in place that could have been hard coded to be a “hard lock” instead of “preference”

but such times are past. I’m disappointed it didn’t get a chance to have more thought put into it.

In any case we would still have the population issue we do now breaking its potential, much like BR.

IMO

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I agree, and I believe the first system was scrapped because it would be necessary additionally and to much work for make him barely balanced, nonetheless was an interesting idea

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Yeah bc people on console we and are leaving the game and overtime it become what feels like a big enough amount to make a difference. It’s still possible to have that queue system but it needs to be done soon if anything

bye bye I guess

Then you have no problem creating custom lobbies with your HA setup

As I’ve been saying it’s all dynamic. Sometimes you win the firefight, sometimes the other guy. Just as before during the merge but even more now both teams are going to have a variety in their arsenal. It’s not like you’re going to be purely fighting bolt actions. But again that’s the whole point that every weapon class has its role.

The only issue is most players don’t play customs, not to mention whatever population size we have. Now of coarse you may say but it destroy noobs but as I said there could be a separate level matchmaking, and it’s not like you are your team are going to be defenseless when you (and the other team) have a wide arsenal.

My point is I simply think the game being overhauled like or similar to this isn’t devastating and would be fine.

And the Americans have plenty of BARS and Thompsons, and the Germans have a wide array of SMGs

I’m just saying it’s a little funny to say HA is fantasy. Like I said even with my idea it won’t be 101% perfect, but 75% immersion is better than 45%

Again both teams will have a wide arsenal at any BR. You would just have to look at my above guide that says exactly what things would be in which BRs. Not to mention obviously there are many more things that can be added to the game. The Germans will have a wide variety of SMGs that “counter” the Federov, while the Soviets have their SMGs and Semi autos to face the Mkb

The game wouldn’t exactly be divided further than it already has since the merge update. I think matchmaking would be fine as is.

The only thing different would be having a separate new lobby, and even then that isn’t even necessary if new players just roll with the punches of this game. I certainly didn’t complain since the very beginning

None needed, already enough.

Im not exactly conserned of myself here, im exactly conserned of those who just began the game and doesnt have anything else than BA’s.

Sure, which works just fine as we speak.
None of the low BR smg’s are OP infact they suit just fine in low BR games, with newcomers with BA’s.
Unlike ppsh, fedorov, mkb or what ever you had in mind.

So then theres no need for such as apparently not so many is intrested of it.

Yeah, its small. So definitely no reason to make it even smaller with this idiotic ideas.

We have que 1-3 and 3-5
People have asked for more ques and the answer is no, due to lack of players.
So no.

Yeah, it would be.

which are none available to newcomer.

so 75% of immersion and 25% of balance ?
How about big fking no ?

I have plenty of weapons to counter any soviet or murrican weapons in BR5.
Which never was the problem.
Problem is that you are attempting to implement BR5 weapons ( There is a reason why they are BR5 )
To low BR games just to satisfy your niche needs.
Which, yes again is retarded idea.

Its not exactly question of what you think but rather what devs said, and they rather clearly said that they will not make new ques due to lack of players.

So you dont mind getting ass handed to you by tiger 2’s and fg42’s but you cant make a simple custom lobby for your niche needs ?

Ok ok, I think I have an idea that pleases all of us, have it as a separate game mode, so have just the normal mode of the game, this, and then customs. That way everyone can have their own space to be happy with being in. Yes it will divide the playerbase but I feel it’s a division in playerbase that is necessary

I don’t even think it’s needed as a separate mode. I think if enough people try it they will see their worries were for nothing and it’s fine. It’s just like the Merge, at first I didn’t like it but I still love the game now.

But that’s why I said obviously the devs don’t have to drop even my idea like a bomb on us. They have the capabilities to test different BRs and builds. Let’s see it.

Yes agreed. At least put it to the test on test servers first. And multiple like what they did for the merge

I will say I hear those complaining about how this would destroy balance or noobs or whatever. I hear your argument, I don’t really agree and have a different perspective on that issue, but I hear where you’re coming from

But just one thought. I’ve been thinking about other shooters lately

Why would it be a problem to have weapons like say the PPSh and Federov in early war, when in other shooters you face weapons at that basically the same power level and I’ve never seen any riots. Heck even in practically every single WW2 shooters. What is it about this game in particular that needs to walk on eggshells and thin ice? I’m just sayin

Good way to put it. When we start with level 1 weapons and get shit on by max levels in multiplayer, we don’t ask for a reform. But if new players get the same treatment here on enlisted, then it’s a problem. Things really don’t line up. Like you see on my comments. I agree with your suggestion on how the system should be. I guess there’s people out there that are just gonna complain :man_shrugging:. Yes I have recently complained about the axis being op due to the amount of content they have and the playerbase they have but this system I feel will balance that out too. Essentially knocking out an extra bird with the same stone

And it would, those guns such as fedorov & ppsh are for reason at BR5.
Fighting against other high tier weapons.

In what games ? Cod ? Battlefield ?
For starters the grind in those 2 games is about ~9000% less than in this game.
You dont have to play years just to unlock one faction entirely.
Also, due to nature of those 2 example games, regardless how poorly you play you will eventually, unlock the said guns for yourself.
Here ? Play poorly and you are looking at anything between months to years to get said weapons for yourself.

So from newcomer perspective, I dont exactly think this game is so attractive to anyone whos into FPS games that he would willingly suffer with by far inferior weapons months / years before he gets to unlock the said guns.