Hetzer for BR II Germany

and they can still kill crew inside the tank.

statement that isnt true. you can easily find KV1 with unobstructed view to ammo. it is not like every battle is on stalingrad with those barriers in the middle of road.

as long as turret is penetrable on any angle.

still didnt give me one tank that can penetrate hetzer frontally on BR1-3

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Yeah, with 15-50 shots. Assuming the KV user aint dumb enough to switch constantly someone on shooter spot.

Right, so all allied tanks can easily counter hetzer because its so easy to shoot guns and tracks too.
Cut the bullshit.

It doesnt have turret.

All of them can pen tracks & gun frontally.
Its just as easy as counter KV with J1 as above explained.

if the soviets get a kv-1 on br3 then a hetzer for br3 is more than fair

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here is quick puma pen screenshots. for your 15-50 shots.


btw rng was bad cause most of the time i detonate it with one shot and i needed 2 shots here. but hey puma/J1 arent counter to KV1

somehow my counter detonates KV1 easily with one or two shots, while your “counter” needs 5 minutes till enemy is too bored to camp inside the tank.

mantlet/hull or whatever front part that can actually kill crew or detonate ammo.

i gave screenshots on how easy it is to detonate ammo inside KV1 with puma/j1 so myth busted.

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exactly the weakspot that hardly ever is visible.

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Ah yes flank frontally untill you get the weakspot visible.

Dont have to, its so easy to counter you dont even have to pen.

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should i go and show you other weakspots that you could kill driver/machinegunner/commander/gunner?

and go 200m into gray zone while trying to flank…

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The exact spot that requires anything between 15-50 shots to actually get kill of the tank ?

if you snipe every crew member individually you only need 4-5 shots (and you will probably kill crew in 2-3 shots most of the time). you know what are those weak spots? optics (guaranteed driver kill+usually commander/gunner/loader depending on angle), MG port (machinegunner kill+loader sometimes), turret (for gunner/commander/loader).

and that is without your “weakspot” being visible.

imagine comparing a turreted tank that is probably the best protected tank against det packs to a turretless tank destroyer with 20mm side armor and 8mm top armor.

The Hetzer should be BR III though.

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Stug 4 had also the same system

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And this works at where ? Sure if you only play at tutorial then fine.
But unless you take out the gun with first hit you aint sniping shit as you die rather instantly in return fire.

You forgot that the Hetzer is a TD with thin side armour. Any BR2 tank can destroy it from the side which should be easy considering that it has turn on the target.

try hitting the side when the Hetzer though not married to has a committed relationship with the gray zone