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I created this post because I am very concerned that this game has taken a course some time ago that is absolutely contrary to what attracted me to this game, namely it is starting to remind me of a hero shooter, with fantasy weapons, without any regulations, para squads with heavy ass weapons dropping like it was nothing

I have a question for you, what version of this game is more attractive to you? in the sense that, you know, you empathize with the soldier and it is such a direct experience in itself, or that you are just super soldiers, loaded with weapons to the teeth, running and clearing targets and just shooting like that?

I’m very irritated by the incompatibility between infantry and vehicles too,

I remember when I started playing and thought:

wow!! In this game, the tank squad really consists of real soldiers performing specific functions!

and then I saw mg gunner with two mg on his back

then I was like wow!! In this game, tanks have their own weak points that must be taken into account when trying to destroy them!

and then I saw that a soldier could carry 3 exp packs, tnt, shovel, gun, main weapon and tools like it was nothing

it’s just things like that. I think the game genre begin to trend more authentic battles, games are much more complex now and can feature more fun mechanics than running around and shooting stuff, enlisted having very accesible simulation-arcade gameplay could really have a lot of attention, recent df desisions seems bizarre for me, is it not working at all like that?

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Enlisted never was fps for hardcore players audience.

So this is disappointed base purely of your made up

Enlisted is just another console fps f2p game. And i think it is very good for what it is.

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so, having authentic gunfights are considered hardcore? and common sense like dropping with light weapons and the eventually picking up something heavier from the crates? or weight system where you just can’t handle everything by yourself?

i’m not saying to turn this game into hll, hell no, games like these have their own flaws, i like enlisted for how much action there is, i just find it incredible dumb to ruin the experience by adding so much fantasy into the game.

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I experienced the sadness of my favorite game being turned into something else for the sake of commerce many years ago with Call of Duty!
But that’s just the way it is, you have to accept it.

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but that’s the twist, i thought that authentic battles were more and more being commerce right now, isn’t it? there’s been sooo much complains about bf5 for example for being too fantasy and inacurate, unauthentic etc etc

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Yes, it definitely is. Enlisted is very arcade(ish) game. And it always was.

There’s tons of alternatives, post scriptum, HLL, isonzo and other game of that “series”.

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game is great because allows you and has an insame ammount of choices.

problem often lies with this too much free choice being abused and meta taking over ( which isn’t strictly only enlisted issues )

as for me,

eh…

don’t really have many preferences.

each version i have played always had ups and downs. and i’m okey with it.
( heck i wouldn’t even be here if i didn’t liked it )

but considering that the halftracks will be finally here after so many years, definitely will be my favorite moment of enlisted.

even though the gameplays becomes somewhat repetitive ( more like, same gameplay loop-hold ), i’ll be on my own creating pves ( and finally release them even though will be for singleplayer / 2 players )
similar to men of war missions where it will be more HA and realism focus on being much slower, and requires think tactically etc.

which that’s the neat part of enlisted.

if you don’t like something, you can create it the way you want.

as long you have time and patience for it.

and enlisted is technically a hero shooter.
which i don’t think much is wrong with it.
it has it’s audience.

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the problem is that there really isn’t, I’ve been looking for something that contain both a lot of action and realism/authenticy and I haven’t found such game.

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i’ve been happy about that too but then i realized its enlisted, it will be probably another tool to rack up insane kills like a super soldier in a probably “mistaken” super explosion-proof vechicle that might be fixed after 3 months in. (or not at all) even now people say that theres something wrong already…

the main idea being that i’d love to feel like a soldier in a battle, all the other games that offer this also have very little to no action in it.

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Yeah, but that’s not the proper reason to hate certain game.

I do understand enlisted isn’t the perfect wwii game you would love to see exist. But it’s pretty much very close to it.
And that’s causing yout frustration. Since it could be something you would loved so much.
Sadly for you, it will neve happen. Since this game needs more variety of its target audience. Not just people like you. It would simply would not be enough.

You will either have to deal with compromise, or simply quit. Because it’s not just about you.
There are many peope for whom the enlisted is rn already too complicated & complex. Yet still game needs those players as well.

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yeah, as much they will die relatively quickly,

those are and will be great for mods.

which it’s the other half part of enlisted.
not everything is like the main arcady part of game.

as said, if you want to make stuff historical or slowed down, you can make it.

if i can ( and i was very new to modding ) i’m sure anyone can.
especially thanks to devenddar, thommy, bazsi37, and few others prominent modders i was able to do most of the basic stuff and even go a bit further and beyond into modifying parameters of the game.

plus, the enlisted modding communitiy is one of the nicest and helpful that one might ever ask for.

if you struggle with something, the helper Devenddar will help you with anything really.

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you played it diplomatically, that’s exactly how I feel, that this game is so close to what I would like and yet so far away, I don’t want to be selfish of course, so I’m not imposing what I would like, I’m just asking for your opinion, well unless you have no opinion and you like this game to be a bit of this and a bit of that.

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Game is OK as long as it retains the spirit of Call of Duty.

Currently - vehicles from War Thunder (tanks without hit points) + arcade weapons (StG / PPSh / BAR) = bad game.

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I know that many players complained about Battlefield not being a “milisim”, and I was one of them. But I think the point is that not all players are vocal about it. I’m sure there were many players who preferred hero shooters.
Well, BF5 actually failed at launch and many other things, but I think Dice and EA had a good reason to design a game like that the way they did, something they found in their marketing research that they respect more than the opinions of military nerds.
In fact, I think the mainstream in FPS games is hero shooters. I think that from the overall gamer’s point of view, those who prefer millisim are in the minority.
A traditional game where the game is sold at full price and the players are left to run the servers would be profitable even if it is for a minority.
However, online games such as Enlisted provide the “service” itself. Running costs are high, and the game is designed to generate more revenue over a long period of time.
In such a medium, I think it will be difficult to continue the line that military enthusiasts enjoy. Somewhere a compromise will have to be made, just like WT.
My hope is that Enlisted will gain a larger player base like WT and grow into a huge title and become a game that combines casual and historical modes.
To the best infantry warfare game that encompasses elements that will satisfy both those who like hero shooters, casual players, and military enthusiasts.
Well, the road is a long and tough one, because even WT took more than 10 years to become what it is today.

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yea i know that, the thing is, i wouldn’t even want this game to stop from making more revenue, why would i?, and if people don’t want game to become any more autnenthic i can only ask for every play style to be viable, as playing authentically and cautious is heavly unrecommended, the only gamemode that i am satisfied with is confrontation as it is the only gamemode where i just don’t need to rush everywhere at high pace with the lost match around the corner

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I don’t think it’s wise to form an opinion now/yet.
The game is still in a state of great change. Merge itself is still a work in progress, developers have to react to stats, feedback etc.
I really don’t think the negative shouts in the dark that are so common now are helping anything.

I like enlisted a lot myself, and I definitely believe it still has the potential to be a great game. I’m definitely not giving up on it right now. Although many things right now can be quite very frustrating.

But tbh, I doubt the game will ever be as complex as you’d like.

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well, i mentioned that

it’s not technically an opinion, rather the concern to maybe help with the further development? to gather people’s feelings about the direction the game is going, welp,

i don’t mean for complex game, i mean that everything should make sense, there’s should be logical answer to everything that is happening in the game and everything should work as you’d expect them to. this is my postulate. eg. paras dropping with heavy weapons are literally physics breaking, they could literally pick up heavier weapons as soon as they land and yet they’re equipped with such weapons, why? you know what i mean? soldiers carrying tons of equipment are physics breaking. stuff like that.

this does not need complexity at all.

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There’s always chance devs will implement something like “realistic/historical battles” similar to WT. Would be great if they take some inspiration from Tommy’s mode for it.

But I highly doubt that’s the priority atm.

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it’s not, helpers already said that, it would be pretty much ghost town, i haven’t played war thunder myself but that’s what people say, rumors are that the realistic battles are empty.

i guess i am very lonely with my expectations, i feel like i expect too much logic from a game in order to have fun i should just chill and pew pew more

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The issue is logic can be unbeatable obstacle for many casuals out there. That’s why many games are made intentionally dumber. Because it is casual friendly.
At least that’s my speculation.