Here are the reasons why halftrack are usefull and not pointless like you believe ( if implemented correctly )

i see dead tanks as well that would have lasted way less then averange APC if were a thing ( can compare them with opel blitzes. but they are not armored so… )

and i don’t really see any problems with it to be honest.

might be an hassle to " manage " for some people but still pays off as you can support your infantry and quite possibly held the objective while keeping the momentum.

you are literally comparring carrots with potatoes.

they do different things and serve different purpouses.

it’s that simple.

of course they can.

as long there’s someone that will use them.

if you are gonna use them for support, you don’t need huge maps? :woman_shrugging:

that’s another question.
which does not really have much to do with the support role that the halftruck would hold.

no risk no rewards.

because you can move them, and have in much large quantity without being forced to destroy them ( not anymore since they warp ) but you would have to waste resourches, and time.

which it’s different if only one has to spend it to drive the thing.

again…

not really good “points”.

is… that all?

Thats where youre wrong!

An unarmored truck does nothing. It doesnt kill you, why wast the time and explosions to kill.

A tank destroyes everything thats why everyone want to kill them

Same for halftrack. It will annoy people by killing them and make them kill it.

Truck is harmless, APC isnt

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ahhh… always with the projections…

how cute.

if you don’t know how to use it, let the others do it, and thank them later.

even if that would be the case, has nothing to do with the potential and actual usefullness if well played.

yes, but at the same time, not really.

and yet I, ( also the others. i don’t take full credits to everyhintg )
proved you wrong.

yet we are doing the opposite.

go figure.

i can run over people just fine :woman_shrugging:

although less effective.

also, i forgot one factor.

something that you haven’t experienced alot since you are quite the grinch from almost 1 year,

and that is the fun factor.

i’d still use it even if it’s a kubelwagen.

and since it’s a ww2 game, halftrucks are a must.

despite you being blind about it.

well, bring it more.

but as i have places to be tomorrow, i’ll go to sleep.

i’ll answer further “”“points”"" when i will be up.

You confuse me.

It’s a bit like fighter planes in tunesia situation. Yeah, they are good at dogfighting. But it would be nice to also have an ability to bomb.

So no, I don’t need huge maps. But they would increase the usfulness of APCs a lot.

? I’ve wrote that devs aren’t known for making logical decisions. What does it have to do with fire support?

Big risk, meh reward I’d say.

Not big of a deal. Probably I’ll be dead before I have to move them anyway so I’ll have a fresh squad with 100% supply.

I have never seen an ammo box with 0 ammo left (exept maybe one mortar guy). So I’d say it’s a very situational thing.

I could say the same.

Ps.
About mobility.
You may wonder, why do I give so big of a fuck about this particular aspect. The answer is simple. I don’t believe devs will implement halftracks like in your idea. I think that they will be ordynary trucks with thin armour, a MG and noting else. It’s sad but imo that’s how it will be.

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AI sucks in this game

Id like to see you try.

There you cant live more than 10 seconds without being blown up or had 20 holes in you from SFs

By others you mean like 2 other people?

Grinch lmao

Disagreeing means bad ig

Well yes, but again try to have fun with tryhards, just try

You will leave the match quicker than it takes me to press “reply”

Most people dont care about “fun” they care about KD and victory at all costs. They will do the most dirty strats to win like spamming AA, suicide bomb, SF spam, gray zone camp and so on

TLDR:

Again halftrack will be useless

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I didn’t read all that but yes we should definitely have half tracks and other special vehicles in game. I love having a large variety of vehicles and such to have in this game’s sandbox

The Panzerwerfer 42 Premium Vehicle is already a specialized half track
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I wouldn’t say easy as she has some valid points. Although imo it’s a sacrifice “usefull to few, useless for many” and I don’t like that.

Also love the picture XD

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well depends on the campaign, but most of them are small and are designed to funnel you into corridors. not to mention loads of debris and obstacles.

i am all for halftracks, but maps are relatively bad for them. i would really love some map that is actually designed with vehicles in mind…

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You mean something like in the game Steel Division?

It’s never a pointless post, even if repeated, because:

Enlisted NEEDS halftracks and other fun armoured vehicles.

Heck, they could be the cornerstone of new, larger maps game modes, who knows.

Carry on the good fight!

I mean who can honestly say they DO NOT want to see armoured vehicles such as regular halftracks, but also:

  • M13 multiple guns motor carriages?
  • sd.kfz. 251/22 with big ass AT gun?
  • Soviet milktruck with QUAD MAXIMS :heart:
  • or just this:
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Endless possibilities. Much more content. Opportunity for the devs to rework campaign tech line into a tech tree with sidegrades!

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But the maps ARE too small for somethink like half tracks regardless atm
One of the reasons tanks “grey zone” is mainly due to the smaller maps with their guns that can shoot 1km+ and aiming sights that have more zoom then a snipers scope
And now you want to add a lightly armoured vehicle that not only are fragile, but will only be used to drive what 80 meters then blow up and leave a wreak

While the overall size of the map is 1km+ squared the play area is only 200 meters squared with the whole design of the map to funnel all the players into a 20 meter squared area, and the devs introduced artillery vehicles purely to make more money no think to do with the size of the maps

While I really want half tracks to be added as they are my favorite machines it would be infeasible to add them and would make for a more redundant game feature

How ever Tunisia with its current maps could pull this off as the maps gameplay areas are larger then most and dont funnel you into certain areas

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Not really, more like, you are confused.

Because first we talk about vehicles, which as category for enlisted is one thing, then you compare the function and health of those vehicles. Which it’s totally another.

Those vehicles will do different thing because they don’t have to be used the same way.

But it still doesn’t change the fact that can be still usefull EVEN if the map it’s not that big.
Literally not much of a deal.

Heck, now we could also make the half track into a fourth specialization such as integrated rally point. What’s the difference? Even if there are enemies near, you can spawn on the half truck. ( I mean, it can still be blown up by anything so… it’s not like it would be op ) and perhaps, increase the seconds someone has to spawn again as sort of cool down.

That is not up for you to judge.

As there are people using questionable weapons and still use them despite that, I think they can, and should.

So… what, are we gonna lock all type of content because of personal feelings ?

Way to go shoen.

If you die, you die.

If you don’t, you can refill…

It’s that simple.

Crazy revelation, I know. But even if take an objective, I dont always lose my squad in the process.

Except not everyone has engineers ( take into account Tunisia ) let alone having huge pouches ?

And it’s not like everyone places even those “ simple “ ammo boxes.

So yeah, if you ask me. Point still stands.

Which it’s why I can’t make everything my self.

Need more people agreeing rather thinking subjectively ( instead of objective ).

But go on.

Wasn’t really talking about them.

I would, but half trucks are not in the game yet so…

Quite sure I would. Or to the very least, someone somewhere will be able to use it.

And that, is the bloody objective of support.

Doesn’t look like it.

So far, more like 2 people against it.

I mean, I was talking about you generally.

Given your past records.

But way to go shoen.

Not every match is made by try harder :woman_shrugging:t3:

Well, yeah.

But as I said, those vehicles will be mostly usefull with pve stuff.
And technically, also mods.

So… even if you will not use it, it still have uses within the game.

Clearly the opposite “ I’m afraid “ for you.

Once again, as a wise woman said, “ if you don’t know how to use it, doesn’t mean it’s gonna be pointless . “

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Well,

If you use a specialized half truck, I have yet to understand how you would use it in the gray area.

Tell me?

If maps were small…

Then why we use artillery vehicles ?

I mean, a choice is a choice.

As people feel redundant about selecting planes or tanks, I’m sure doesn’t hurt no one to add half trucks for those who do not want to use the other vehicles.

How hard can it be.

Which it’s kinda why I have asked to rework the riders class didn’t I?

Can you remind me where the actual rider squad is in which campaign again?

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thats the fun part, we dont.

Those who use and have bought those vehicles would disagree.

Hence… if devs included those vehicles, I don’t think they would have an issue adding half trucks.

i’ve seen multiple post that said they regretted buying these type of vehicles, so yeah.

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Doesn’t change the fact that are still in the game, aren’t they ? :woman_shrugging:t3:

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yeah like the m4a2 the the PZ IV J and all that other stuff that just disappear from gameplay bc you get something better.

if halftracks will be added good idc almost no one will use them and they will be useless, but in modded maps they could work well.

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