Give the Soviets their own AT

Yes, the Soviets did have their own AT gun. It is a 76 mm ZiS-3. It has been used since 1941. It was used in Stalingrad to fight back against German Tanks at the Commissar’s house, killing one of the Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B in the attack.

There is no need for the Soviets to have a Pak40, they have their own stuff that they were extremely proficient with.

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And stop giving them American and German stuff.

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I can agree with the German stuff, but America was known for shipping thousands of weapons and vehicles to the Soviet Union.

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I‘d like to see some USSR AT gun in the game.But ZIS 3 is seems to week to damage the Tiger and Panzer.The APHEBC shell which Zis 3 equiped is BR350A.So I think put Zis 3 in BR1~3 is suitable.The Soviets can have 57mm Zis 2 in higher BR.By the way ,because of the bad behaviors in early time of the war,Germany captured lot of Zis 3.They equiped Zis 3 new APCBC shell make Zis 3 can damage
Matilda 2.Maybe we can play it in North Afirca map someday.

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7.5 cm Panzerabwehrkanone 40
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A Pak 40 75 mm anti-tank gun, displayed in the Museum of Military History, Vienna.
Type Anti-tank gun
Place of origin Nazi Germany
Service history
In service 1942–1945
Used by Nazi Germany
Finland
Kingdom of Romania
Kingdom of Hungary[1]
Kingdom of Bulgaria
Norway (postwar)
Portugal (postwar)
Wars World War II
Vietnam War
Indonesian invasion of East Timor
Production history
Designer Rheinmetall-Borsig AG
Designed 1939–1941
Manufacturer Rheinmetall-Borsig AG
Unit cost 12,000 RM
Produced 1942–1945
No. built 23,303[2]
Specifications
Mass 1,425 kg (3,142 lb)
in action[2]
Length 6.2 m (20 ft 4 in)
Barrel length 46 calibres: 3.45 m (11 ft 4 in)
Width 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in)[3]
Height 1.2 m (3 ft 11 in)[3]
Crew 6[3]

Shell Fixed QF 75×714mm R[3]
Caliber 75 mm (2.95 inch)
Breech semi-automatic horizontal sliding-block
Recoil Hydro-pneumatic[3]
Carriage Split trail
Elevation −5° to +22°
Traverse 65°
Rate of fire 14 rounds per minute
Effective firing range 1,800 m (1,969 yd) direct fire
Maximum firing range 7,678 m (8,397 yd) indirect HE shell

76-mm divisional gun M1942 (ZiS-3)
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ZiS-3 in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia
Type Field gun
Place of origin Soviet Union
Service history
In service 1942–1990
Production history
Designer design bureau of No. 92 Artillery Factoryheaded by V. G. Grabin
Designed 1940
Produced 1941–1945
No. built 103,000+
Specifications
Mass combat: 1,116 kg(2,460 lbs)travel: 2,150 kg(4,730 lbs)[1]
Barrel length 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in) 42.6 calibers[2]
Width 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)[2]
Height 1.37 m (4 ft 6 in)[2]
Crew 7 artillerymen

Shell Fixed QF 76.2 × 385 mm. R[2][3]
Caliber 76.2 mm (3 in)
Breech Semi-automatic vertical sliding-wedge[2]
Recoil Hydro-pneumatic[2]
Carriage Split trail
Elevation −5° to +37°
Traverse 54°
Rate of fire up to 25 rounds per minute
Maximum firing range 13.29 km (8.25 mi)

If it is a cosmetic change yes, if it is a stat change the new gun would have 50% more range or power and nearly twice the rate of fire so nooooooooooooooooo

This is perfect for the Soviets.

no that’s meta gaming
wait king tiger two give the rusi’'s nukes

What do you mean by meta-gaming? It is simply how it was.

like in D&D with homebrew you are not trying to add flavor but give the Soviets an advantage, ok than make half the t-34 have metal polished sights and other manufacturing flaws, this is about balance not realism

I think what we’re not taking into consideration about the rate of fire of such anti tank guns is that those were manned by a whole crew. Not just a single guy doing everything. There should be a huge reload speed penalty when trying to man it with one soldier, and this should be applied to all AT guns across factions. That would bring balance by having to risk a whole squad if you want a faster fire rate, but a HE round could wipe them off at any time. And hopefully one day we’ll have proper reload animations for the crew, that could seriously up this game big time. Just my two cents

Then just lower the ROF artificially and then make up a story about it having a slower ROF like they did with the MP-717 (r)

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No need of that. Faster rate of fire of ZiS-3 can be a good substitute for a slow rate of IS-2.

Indeed, but I think it’s fine that a side had a disadvantage against another. The Soviets having crappy AT weapons makes it fun like how the Soviets have better SMGs than the Germans.

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Shouldn’t weaker ammo cycle a direct blowback SMG slower? I know it’s the same with a locked breech but with direct blowback weaker ammo should equal a slower RPM.

The SMG was designed to shoot that round, but yes, it should put it at 900 rpm.

That would only make sense with a brand new recoil spring with no wear, in reality the typical PPSh-41 had a fire rate of ~1200 give or take. Although with the WW2 Soviet ball ammo it might have been slower

Also the MP-41(r) should shoot slower than the PPSh-41 since WW2 9mm loadings had less energy than 7.62 Tokarev. (A PPSh-41 converted to 9mm usually has 800-900 RPM compaired to the ~1200 the original Tokarev chambered ones have)

The standard WW2 Soviet 7.62×25mm Tokarev round (for pistols) weighed 88 gr and had a velocity of 420.014 m/s. This equates to 501.653 Joules of energy acording to the bullet energy calculator:

The 9×19mm has a muzzle velocity of 350 m/s and muzzle energy equal to 490 J. (Don’t know the bullet weight used in 9mm during WW2 but its most likely 115 gr)

Tokarev source:

Bullet energy calculator:

https://www.larrywillis.com/bullet-energy.html

9mm source:

Also keep in mind that the 7.62 Tokarev rounds used by the Soviets and Czechs for whatever reason uses a medium burn rate gunpowder which is typically found in rifles. This makes it flourish out of a 10.6 inch barrel from a PPSh-41 where as it blows unburnt powder out of a pistol length barrel.

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