Give japan a proper BR 5 attacker

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Currently japan doesnt have a single good dedicated bomber/ heavy fighter bomber for the attacker slot.
The B5N2 has only a single drop and not even a gun.
The D3A1 is just an early JU 87 but nothing that special or exiting.
The DAY1 isnt even that good for BR 4 as it struggles to climb and doesnt feel any faster than any other 500kg bomb payload plane. It moves like a brick and the cockpit doesnt help you eighter.
There isnt anything it can do if anothere fighter(or bomber for that matter) shows up expect hope to somehow survive long enough to drop before beeing shot down.

Japan already is very reliant on their fighter slot to bomb the enemy while the bomber slot is vacant for a good amount of the game.

Japan already has great figter and im sure the new one will be great too (even if the dual 60kg at BR 5 is a bit odd) but what japan was lacking for BR 5 wasnt 2 new fighters but a bomber that doesnt need as much baby sitting and can pack a punch against ground targets at the same time.

I did some minimal digging in WT and regarding the payload I found 2 common options for bombers.
Here the Ki-49.

  1. 4 250kg bombs
    or
  2. around 12 of 50/60kg bombs
    im not yet sure if a 250 kg bombs or a more unique 10 or more 50(or 60kg) bomb payload would be a better fit. The dual drop of 250kg bombs would be the safe option as it would easiely deal with tanks and is already proven to work but the 50kg/60kg option would be interessting aswell for the abitly to carpet bomb an entire area while sacrificing the lager bombs that would be better agains tanks.
    But I do understand that even small bombs can be used to devastating effect so it might be a bit more risky to implement as it isnt as explored as othere payloads so far.

Im sure there are people willing to share othere suitable candidates to fill that slot in the comments so feel free to post planes that you would like to see.

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Japan ROCKETS from War Thunder add this please, we are suffering in silence

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USSR needs one as well while we’re at it.

I know these factions try to make their planes shine with other traits but in the end the role of the attacker boils down to the amount of payload.

That is because bombers either lack the agility to combat fighters, or they’re designed in a vulnerable way (e.g. Pe-2/A-20 Boston glass front) that makes it extremely easy to snipe the pilot even when they get an angle on a fighter plane.

What you really pick them for, therefore, is to combat tanks and infantry targets. Larger bombs even let you throw blindly and expect to hit something, which many players do due to the lack of bomber scopes (Dropping the bomb).

So now we have weird situations where the plane meta is Su-2/IL-2(1941) even at high BRs for USSR, while Japan has a decent BR IV bomber that checks all the boxes when looked at in isolation - but still has LESS payload than the US 1000lb bomb that is 2 BRs LOWER than the D4Y1.

I agree that Japan needs a more well-equipped attacker plane at BR V, and so do the Soviets. Of course those planes will usually sacrifice all other factors like best turn time etc., but like I said these aren’t what constitute a good attacker plane in most players’ eyes.

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we need suicide planes
real suicide plane
For example, Sakura Commando

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Although there are several “bombers” in use in the game, they are considered attack aircraft, since we are going to ask, I would request an exclusive branch for bombers