Buying your way to level 25… In all campaigns
Yeah, find I only use about three a match, if more then that it’s for a fighter plane to shoot down A20 spammers. And I never use my premium squads, unless I have get 65 smg kills task.
Funny you mention pay to win… They just paywalled the main task section. Now you need the Elite BP to access the main tasks after you complete three of them. This game is headed down a dark path. Hope they dont become the next EA…
Thats the same thing thats been in game the whole time… You could only progress 3 missions a day without premium for the battle pass. Its nothing new 
Once again people who have no clue what they’re talking about are whining and complaining like morons.
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that and they fail to see the huge buff it is getting a card every 3000 xp. massive buff
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that and they fail to see the huge buff it is getting a card every 3000 xp. massive buff
sorry…trip post
The main problem i see is the “you have to have vehicle Squads with you”.
Sure, buying Squad slots gives you more freedom of choice as you can have several squads with you. However, only 1 Squad can be in the battle at a time and there it doesn´t really matter wich you take. As even with 10 squads, when the team as a whole fails, you ain´t winning. Wanna spam Arty? Take your Radio Squad with you. Wanna “Rush B” like a madman? Take your Assaulter and Gunner Squad. It´s always dependend on what you want to play. I did and still would do fine with the F2P Slots. And even nowadays, i have like 2 squads with me, that need leveling and my gunner squad. Thats what i use mostly, even with 10 slots availably, so i could easily tune that down to 1 leveling and 1 gunner squad.
And hearing people talking about DPS, well, we are not in a MMO where “DPS” would matter. K98 OHKs as well as a MP40 can. Only difference is that the MP40 is better in a CQB situation.
However, as i said, the main Problem i see are the forced vehicle slots. Remove those and people that prefer to fight as an Infantry can take all their slots full with Infantry to battle. This would also give F2P players a bit more choice. They could still take a Tank or a plane with them and have the rest filled with Infantry squads or let it stay as it is.
As for me personally, there is nothing in the game i would really refer to as P2W, since again, the additional slots only give you more freedom of choice.
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This game is not P2W. Sure buying squads and other things gives you more flexibility, but a normal player with skill can easily overcome premium players. It all just comes down to how coordinated your team is and how good you are at the squads you are running.
Definition of P2W, and remember this : Games that let you buy anything that gives you a HUGE advantage over other players.
Nothing you buy in this game gives you a HUGE advantage over players who don’t. I haven’t spent a dime on this game and have wiped multiple premium squads many times.
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However, if you run into a scenario where the battle demands a certain loadout or vehicle to be brought, you cannot react to it without the extra slots.
OHK does not matter if you have to kill ~7 soldiers per squad. Sure, your bolt action might kill the first soldier just as good as a SMG/LMG, but its time to kill a whole squad is significantly higher.
More options is in itself an advantage. Yes, this advantage is small, but exists nonetheless. But as you said, either giving more slots, or more flexible slots to F2Ps would fix this issue.
But in cases of pure equal skill, premium players would have a slight advantage.
No. P2W is if you can obtain or maintain something that gives you ANY advantage with real life currency only.
Let’s say premium time players got a 5% health boost, 5% movement speed boost, 5% damage boost, 5% capture rate boost, etc etc etc. These would all be “small” advantages according to you and not P2W, despite being blatantly P2W.
Sure you can kill something 1000 times. But if you die 2000 times to premium stuff in the same timeframe, you are still at a 0.5 KDR compared to it. P2W does not have to be “oh I paid so I literally cannot lose”. That’s BS.
If they don’t give an advantage, in you words, why can’t free to play players own them with the cost of time, tokens and grind?
They give advantages. Bar on normandy it’s overall just a better ar/mg
An extra Atack plane if you, like me, own extra squad slots give the option to own a rocket and a bomb bf109.
More ammo per clip on mp28 its an advantage
And so on.
I m enjoying my, unfair advantages, just because I m on a position that alow me to spend hundreds of euros per month on games against someone that simply cant.
On the reciving end, a player like me that all my life all I did in games was playing fps shooters I ill perform way better with that advantages. Not that I need them, but since I can and own them, even slightly it’s unfair.
I propose, once again, to give an option for free to play players to own what I bought, with the cost of huge play time, silver tokens or bronze ones at massive cost and time.
Once everything it’s avaiable either as f2p and gold users like me, the game can’t be labeled as p2w.
Pay to have it right now.
Or grind and save it for months to own it.
Either way, no one can have an advantage on the long run
Company I’ll still get money from people like me that want to support, collect items in-game, and want to have it right now not tomorrow.
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If they were grindable, drastically less people would buy them just in case they could get it for free, even if they practically wouldn’t get it because of the grind being too much. I am realistic enough to not ask for all of the paid content to be obtainable for free as it would lose too much profit.
But we are in a squad vs squad environment, where the lack of 3 extra soldiers does hurt the squad compared to a free assaulter/gunner squad. If the squad would be buffed back to 7 soldiers, it would indeed be P2W as the guns do indeed overperform.
Grindable to an huge extend. Huge amounts of time, tokens and savings to own them.
People want it right now. People like me I’ll still spend right now for them and save cards (tokens) and grind improving normal squads.
The bar its just unreal in normandy,2 shots to kill with barely no recoil. Big ammo pouches having extra 180 ammo it’s just unfair.
I favor, suggest to give the option to everyone have the same experience. Costing money right now, or time tomorrow
The fact that the Polish BAR overperforms is kinda unrelated to the experience thing. If you want to play with BARs, there are free BARs available in the tech tree.
Will still cost the company a significant amount of money in the long run, so I don’t mind the non-P2W but paywalled content.
Isn’t that the point of this thread?! Remove p2w content and give everyone the same playfield!?
I am fine with the paying players getting a gun that fires slightly faster at the cost of more recoil, or some other kind of sidegrade, as long as it is not direct upgrades. Non-paying players can have squads that are more powerful than the premium squads right now. The same cannot be said for the advantage given by premium squad slots. You cannot obtain those slots for free, and there is no other way of achieving the same amount of slots (as a premium user can also have all the permanent slots) to compensate for it.
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Well. To some extend they cant give people premium stuff like the PPK, MP41 and the 1944 CBT stuff as they sold them with the point that you are only able to buy them during the CBT era (same for alpha stuff). Guess some people like me wouldnt mind while others would complain and I dont know it this is legal.
Ive already explained that you can cram every specialist and Special unlock required for all situations into 3 squad slots. They choose to ignore that fact
And I said that they simply cant do this with the CBT weapons as they sold them with the argument that you are only able to buy them during CBT.
And the Veteran perk mess will eventually come anyway.
For me i didnt have a limit. And i didnt pay for premium bs… I guess it glitched lol. But after the update it capped my tasks at 3. Wish i could figure out how to do the glitch i accidentally discovered.