German BR I "Panzerfaust 30 - Klein":

An initiative that would neatly end the entire “Panzerfaust” family (that has been proposed many times as of now).

But the “Klein” (or small) variant would be much more suitable in this case than the later 30th variant, purely due to the fact that both the 30th, 60th and 100th models were practically identically effective at the 200mm armor penetration limit, while the Klein model only achieved a penetration limit of about 140mm, making it an excellent choice for the German BR I arsenal, hunting those light enemy tanks and cars.

In my opinion, now it would be the best time for this introduction, when developers pay more attention to lower BR’s.

EDIT: Apparently, due to some misconception, my proposal is interpreted as an exception to BR I category. I took this as a simple basis for further discussion, the whole point is the lowest class Panzefaust weapon in the German arsenal, since the BR III and BR IV models are already in the game.

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Why BR1 and not 2?

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With such stats I dont really think it belongs to BR1.
BR2 maybe, since BR2 faces KV and so on.

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BR1 is AT rifles. While I support the idea of adding the 30 klein at BR2; it would severely devalue other infantry based AT weapons available to Germany at that BR.

Although, that said. Replacing the Sturmpistole with it might be a reasonable compromise. Or maybe folder it with the Sturmpistole.

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Maybe buff the sturmpistol too so it doesn’t become useless - irl the sturmpistol has 10mm more pen than ingame

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and the rifle version who was a prototype was able to swap to stronger ammo…

They should buff Sturmpistole first it’s the worst AT launcher at BR2 with such awful reloading speed.

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People forget that it would have double the drop and half the velocity of the Panzerfaust 60 - because the 60 just like the 30 stands for effective range in meters.

The Panzerfaust klein would pretty much be a Piat - with 40mm more penetration - which can be adjusted a bit anyways.

BR2 Panzerfaust would finally be the nerf that KV1 needs.

P.S. US MUST get some high BR AT launcher specifically for Tiger II H, infantry needs to be able to fight armor, because tanks aren’t supposed to be a main force - but rather a support tool.

P.S. P.S. Japan obviously also needs a AT launcher.

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The recent buff to the M9 Bazooka allows it to easily penetrate the sides and rear. In my experience, you’re not going to get within range of infantry based AT when tanks are gray zone camping, anyway. I will say that I think that above BR 3 needs some field pieces to deal with armor at range.

The problem, of course, being that plans for anything beyond the infantry based AT weapons already in the game; there weren’t, AFAIK, any even in the conceptual stage. I’d almost rather see M26s somehow banned from Pacific matches.

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The lunge mine has 185mm of pen or so

I was actually going to make a joke about a lunge mine launched from a crossbow.

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Type 4 90mm rocket launcher - which actually has a sight, and 120mm of penatration

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Not really, it is still possible to hit it, you just need some practice. Not to mention you can go to the edge of the grey zone to make it easier to shoot.

Lol BRO US top tier AT launcher has less pen than your BR1 submission lol

This is BR2 material 100%, first off for historical reasons (ATRs came first), Klein even fits as first BR3 AT research pre Pzf60

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After last correction KV1 can be easily killed by the Grb-39 same as T-34. Honestly i have much easier time killing KV-1 with that launcher than actual BR3 tanks.

And give it more war heads

And the bazooka doesnt do the same for the othere factions?

Well, now it does. It used to be that the PIAT had better penetration, but now that that’s no longer the case, and now that USSR has it… Well you’re right; it kind of does.

Due to the fact that Panzerfaust 60 already being in the BR III category, automatically rotates in the lower BRs, and as I guess it is a much more frequent “guest” in the BR 2 category (although I need to test this more and correct me if I’m wrong). But this randomness just don’t cut it. Building an army entirely out of BR I weapons, Germany does not have the lowest tier Panzerfaust, which I think is odd given the higher tier models.

Because in this case, the Sturmpistole being BR II weapon has been completely forgotten by the developers and has become nothing more than a simple gimmick item. So we have a big enough gap that could be fixed by simply adding a lower tier Panzerfaust model. I don’t see a problem with that at all. We can just upgrade the Sturmpistole, and just add the Klein variant to the tech tree, either by adding it as a separate unit, or at least as a gold order weapon.

My proposed BR I is not some kind of axiom, but rather as a basis for discussion. The core of my proposal is a fully developed Panzerfaust family.

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My proposed BR I is not some kind of axiom, but rather as a basis for discussion. The core of my proposal is a fully developed Panzerfaust family.

“Lol BRO US top tier AT launcher has less pen than your BR1 submission lol”
All cool, fully agree Klein should be in, no way its BR1 material. Ur simply talking about a weapon that in non german tree is BR3, hell BR4 if it was american. Completely fine as BR2 or early BR3.