German and Finnish captured weaponry

The Germans and Finns captured guns from the Soviets.

PPD-34\38s and PPD-40s were captured by the Finns weregiven to home guard and coastal troops.
PPD-34\38s that were captured by the Wehrmacht were renamed MP.715(r)
PPD-40s that were captured by the Wehrmacht were renamed MP.716(r)
PPSh-41s captured by the Finns were converted to 9x19mm suomi KP-\31 and KP-\44 magazines.
PPSh-41s captured by the Wehrmacht were renamed MP.717(r) or converted to 9x19mm MP-38\40\41 magazines.

The Finns also copied the PPS-43 but made it use suomi magazines.
As well as the mosin but thats enough for now.

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Nice history lesson, but why do we need to know this? Are you saying we should allow to Germans to use Russian weapons in game?

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so what? the captured weapons are already in the game files but will not be introduced before the next rotation around the sun of jupiter

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Finnish Mosins are already in game in Moscow.

And captured weapons maybe come in future as gold weapons.

That happened alot irl so yes but make separate models

Really dont want to see both sides spamming PPSHs…one captured one for a golden order would be alright I suppose but we dont need clone weapons on each side

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Why not?

9mm PPSh-41 is basically a whole different gun.
Less Range and Fire rate, but more damage

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Omg the Russians captured StG 44s! Everyone gets one now! Its a dumb idea because it makes factions essentially irrelevant because everyone will have PPSHs and StG44s

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why dont just use KP-41 rather than copy pasta, it’s in-game except it use box mag instead of drum

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Finns didnt convert them to 9mm, rather used captured stock ammunition or 7.63x25 mauser

due to rather light weight of kp44, 35 coffin magazines were preferred.
And kp44 never saw action.

I would be opposed to this being implemented, If both sides have the same or similar thing, then its not interesting. Cause in ww2 all the countries captured enemy weaponry.

I do not, want any of these guns ever on the Axis side. We need to keep the game unique or whats the point.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/finnish-captured-ppsh-in-9mm-more-info-added.128335/

https://www.ppsh41.com/finn.html

Im aware of few prototypes, but as your links pretty much points out they werent converted to 9mm other than few prototypes.
Thought you meant that it was common practise to convert ppsh to 9mm in fdf, if that wasnt your point then I misunderstood your point.