Gaijin should be thanked for handling Lone Fighters mode, but it won’t work for one reason:

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I would like to thank the game developers for taking the Lone Fighters implementation seriously as for now. Some changes, worthy of serious consideration, about the possibility of turning Lone Fighters into something very hardcore. This is the right step in a good direction, but a cornerstone, and the key element of this mode is still unresolved.

You have to decide basically what this mode is, and what its purpose it gives, and what audience of players this mode should attract. As long as Lone fighters mode has bot support implemented, there will be no point in playing this mode, because in my opinion, the point here is to have real player hardcore intersection mode in this game. And why not? Here me out.

Lone Fighters should be a medium for those players who don’t support AI interactions with real players in games like this. This should be clearly emphasized and done. An opportunity should be created for players who believe in their ability and skills to use them professionally, knowing that your opponent you just killed is a real player.

For all of this to work, you need to think of a good player reward system (or maybe something else in this manner) that will attract not only players like me who would basically just play Lone fighters, but also those who feel “safer” or whatever when playing squad mode. In other words, I think Lone Fighters should be for players who really want to test their skills.

In my deep conviction, and as a player, this mode should become a priority for further development. Leave bots only in squad mode, for at this time at least, and think how to make, this mode worth player time, not leaving the battle ( as this is why there is bots in this mode).

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Definitly not. It was never meant as a main mode, it was never meant to exist in the first place.
If you like LF, great. But the game is and always was about bots, you have LF mode only thanks to devs kindness. So plz, don’t force everybody else to fulfill your will.
Squad mode should remain main focus as it’s the game’s main feature.

Also Gaijin is only publisher, Darkflow is the developer.

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It’s fine with me. But since we’re already talking about the fact that such a mode already exists (whether you like it or not), then all that remains is to perfect it. I’m in favor of having the full experience of the game, and Enlisted, can be a game that will connect the community from different angles.

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I have no problem with developing LF mode, but not at a cost of the squad mode development.
And focusing on the LF mode, as you suggested, will hurt squad mode considerably.

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If you list the main arguments why you, as a player, think that squad mode, in which most of its control is occupied by AI solutions (the one we have now in the game), is superior in this case than, say, full control of the player in his actions, then we will move on to the other side of the discussion. Because here’s a rhetorical question, since the game developers have to come with idea how to make that the AI system is upgraded to such a level that you feel like you have full control of the action. And is it possible to do this after all? No matter how you do it, AI will always have some kind of a flaw.

Maybe it’s worth thinking about a similar squad system that exists in the HLL game (with real gamers in it), but it’s not perfect also because you can’t force a player to play some specific roles that one doesn’t want to play, and that’s just ruining the immersion.

Just as things are moving with the squad improvement at least so far in the game, I see LF as a mode with much more potential.

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The darkflow studio not gaijin made enlisted ,gaijin is the editor of the studio ,is darkflow wo have all decisional power
Now for your post this mode never have to see the ligth, if they make a marketing campain araund a game of player wo controll an ai squad e fight along and vs other player in ww2 major battle a solo player mode wy is created?
For a little variation? Yes but this have to stop a this little variation, the decision of the dev team of focalize on lone wolf say only on thing to this community
“We dont know how resolve ai issue now so take this mode and play and dont forget of buy things on the store”

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Yet, you ignore the fact that such a mode is already implemented, and it’s not just some dead demo version you just made in order to “get rid” of players who see such a mode as potential.

Such a mode already exists. And such a mode will attract the people who love it. And here we are no longer debating whether it is necessary or unnecessary. We talk about how it can be improved and developed.

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This mode"lone wolf" is made for player wo dont like the ai only for them and i repeat enlisted is in development from 2016 and from 2016 they enfatize the squad mode now after 5 years they change idea because fix the ai is so difficult for them? Theres no excuse expecially for who spend 99$ for become CBT

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Problem is that even though it exist it is much less popular than Squads. You can find multiple threads of this forum focused on the ammount of bots in LF mode. They are there for a reason - if there is not enough players to fill the lobby, bots will take their place.
Right now devs announced incoming changes to the LF mode, that are almost 180 degress flip to the other side, making it completely different game. My opinion is that devs realised that previous incarnation of LF, which was trying to give players from COD and BF more standard WW2 FPS was not working. They wanted that mode, so devs gave it to them. But after players moved on to probably other games and left mode abandoned devs still have to do something about it. So they are trying to lure completely different playerbase, that would enjoy FF, no HUD, only biggest maps.
Problem is that although all those changes were asked for at some point during CAT, CBT and now OBT, majority of players thought about introducing them in Squads, not commonly unliked LF. As you can see in the post with those announcements, feedback isn’t 100% positive and most common complain is “why in LF?”.

If those new changes somehow will be successfull (what I honestly doubt), then sure, there is no problem with developing LF further and making it better. But telling that for whatever reason it should be main focus for devs is just not right.

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Nobody here talking that something needs to be destroyed, something needs to be replaced. I’m talking about the ability to develop the game in all modes. About namely LF mode improvement and further construction. And for AI, it’s not just Gaijin’s challenge here. It is the responsibility of each game developer then you submit the game as advertised.

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LF is a waste of development resources.

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ITS DARKFLOW NOT GAIJIN you are stupid GAIJIN IS THE EDITOR its darkflow WO MADE THE GAME
And i say squad mode have an huge bag of problem from the ai to the basic player envorimental interaction wy they focalize all their force on lone wolf if the squad mode the main mode is in a horrible state after 5 years of work
If they want develop lone wolf ok but in rispect of wo buy the game for squad mode and for wo play and support it and give feedback for help the dev instead of waste their time with this mode use thath time for make the game better

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And you didn’t have a question, why is it unpopular? Because it is not perfected. I noted in my first post why developers should reconsider the capabilities of this mode. Well, I see you haven’t read what I wrote, and what my thoughts are. You focused on my last sentence. I don’t want to spit on that.

No one suggests, something to destroy. I have already written a few posts above that depending on what the situation is now with squad mode, this LF has much more potential.

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eh, i agree that it’s… something. that they are taking care of the lone fighter mode ( in a good way ), but what you like many others tends to forget, is that this is not the main core of the game. the majority of people do not play lone fighter.

the only reason why SOME people played LF, is because of the double xp applied on soldier veterancy, the people that do not like bots, and next, people that will play hardcore.
as you somewhat said in the post above.

what i don’t get is:

what?

exept, you already get double the experience. 1 lone fighter kill, equals 15/10 in the squad mode.

perhaps you haven’t noticed this factor more, but you already get more than enough for playing LF.

i know it, as i used to play both.

i feel like that you didn’t quite nailed the main point of why LF is not working. main issues are, it does not bring anything new nor interestring. the XPs are awelcomed though, like, don’t get me wrong, the LF it’s an ok concept for those who actually don’t want to deal with bots which it’s ok. but the main issues are that the maps are not made for LF, and with the new updates, things are going alot worse as you will be watching ( for example ) d-day with just a few people on it. not fun at all. second of all, there are still many issues regarding balance of teams as there is no skill based matchmaker.

and lastly, not many people plays it.

well, as long it’s your deep conviction, and conviction only, i guess we’re fine.

but thank god developers are more interestred in developing the squad mode. you know, the real game where people actually decided to try this game.
if i have to be honest, it’s the first time in years that lone wolf got updated (in terms of big update). and i think that’s ok. i mean, there are still lone wolf players ( not many, but there are ).

the other point that you seems not understanding is, bots in lone wolf are there, so that you don’t have to wait entire minuts (10 /15 ) just to fill one match that could last 4 minuts or 5 ( depending the team as there is no balance what so ever or the map/gamemode it self ).

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LF is never the focal point of this game and would never be due to many simple reasons. It’s bots that make this game speical.

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I read what you wrote, and like I said - I have no problem with devs developing LF and making it better. Nobody in the right mind would not agree that if they could do something great, then they should do it. I just doubt that it would be possible right now, because they didn’t put enough thought into creating LF mode in the first place - they just did litterally what players asked them for - removed AI squads. But because the whole game is build around them, with map design etc. the results were just wierd and boring.
It will be hard for devs to turn that situation around, but if they manage to do that - good for them.

I, and the rest of people answering to you here, focused on the one sentence because you literally wrote:

I no way LF should be a priority here. Trying to save already almost dead additional mode over making something that seems to work better (and something that is main core of the game from the beginning) is just not great idea. It would be much easier to loose Squads playerbase through neglecting them than convince enough players to give LF another chance.

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I see you are a very perfect caps lock argumentator. So much knowledge, here to argue with you.

Ps. It’s just your personal opinion, nothing more. What they will do and how we will see.

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I can agree with this one :slight_smile:

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You are getting into the mouth of the wolf mate, here many people do not respect different opinions and even insult you :rofl: wonder why the mods dont ban these individuals.

I used to play both modes since I like them bothm sometimes I like to play a different experience in lone fighters. The issue I started to have playing LF was that a team had 15 bots and the other was full of real persons, and that was terrible. very stompy games where you cant even leave from the respawn.

If they could fix the amount of bots in each team, like balacing it having the same amount in both sides, and increasing a bit the rewards, since you get less points in LF than in squads, many more people would play it and would be a fun experience.

I am not saying that LF should be the main mode, just the secondary mode that is always tehre for the people that prefer it or for when you feel like playing it

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I m here for the squad mode.

Lone fighters was pretty much like any other game out there. We have to wait and see if said changes will bring more potential to the mode. But I don’t agree it should take priority over squad mode.

Squad mode it’s what the game is about.

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