FW190 Flight Model

I have been flying a while on here, just unlocked the FW190, something is up, my maxed out BF109-G6 doesn’t roll as quick, the FW has 3 stars currently.

Hoping the devs can take a look at this as it’s a bit much, not sure what p47 like, I get they are more end game planes but FW even on screen Joystick on console is a bit much!

Please fix Devs

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well, that is because the BF 109 cannot be like a FW 190.

the FW 190 comes later, because it’s somewhat a better airplane.
( even there, it’s a bit debatable because it depend how you use it and the various scenarions )

the 109 has superb climb rate and it’s relative stability at low speeds.

but the 190 Is much more maneuverable than the 109 at high speeds. It really comes into it’s own with high-speed slashing attacks

above all, the 109 cannot turn fast like any 190 because they physically cannot.

so, i don’t see here what do you mean by " fix "

EDIT: now I kinda see the issue, I missreaded

Everything you say is wrong. The Fw-190 is a trough that has no combat flaps and barely turns. It also does not have much of an advantage in speed, because all planes fly about the same here, and the distances are short.
The Fw has a buggy flight model, its turn rate is clearly higher than 24 seconds, not 18 as indicated. In addition, it flips, and also the elevator often does not work when you try to tilt the nose of the plane down.
The fw-190, which is terrible to fly, stalls when you try to turn on the landing flaps and fight them bf-109 does not do that

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i’m not sure about this,

can’t really see many differences compared to wt.

the only thing that it’s not normal, it’s the wobblyness

The turn is slower than the bf109, even though you say otherwise. Okay, the fw-190 is less maneuverable, but the difference is enormous.
The Fw turns worse than the P47 on combat flaps, flips upside down, has heavy elevators, but also has bugs with them, for example today I just couldn’t get the nose down. I had to flip on the wing to fly down.
There is something wrong with his flight model, he feels like a log without any pluses (except for the cannons, which because of the bug shoot themselves and also do insignificant damage)
Try turning on the landing flaps and starting to make a turn. At some point the plane will drop.

the FW 190 turns alot better at high speeds. however, because of the way you use planes in enlisted you will never actually use this advantage

it also doesn’t help that every US plane eats up 200 20mm rounds so if you actually climb and build up speed, you still lose your speed advantage before you even make a dent. making the “boom and zoom” tactic that the FW 190 is usefull for in War Thunder obsolete

combined with the bugged guns, shit engine power and random flipping of the aircraft while turning, the FW 190 is less than ideal

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Absolutely right. Fast attacks do not apply in Enlisted. That is why the fw190 is often worse than the bf109.
The engine does not seem more powerful, all planes in the game fly at about the same speed.
Fw requires a normal flight model so that the plane doesn’t flip and the elevator is more responsive.
In addition, it probably needs either better controllability at low speed, or increased damage cannons, because now he does not deserve to be at level 27.
Also the outboard armament could be adjusted. The 12 pb2 missiles could have been mounted on the fw190 a-8, why not give a lot of low power missiles instead of two powerful

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I shoot down planes fine, even with FW, but it’s very wobbly, roll rate is very strange.

I sometimes get bugs with most planes not being able to pull up, this might explain all the kamikaze pilots? Sometimes the lift is literally possible, I. Experienced pilot too

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i have noticed this actually that all planes with over 500-600 listed speed usually fly at exactly the same speed in game

the D-12 in berlin with a listed speed of 750 barely breaks 450 flying straight…

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Again, I completely agree with you. Fw is clearly weakened and buggy. It needs fixes to be normal.
The P38, which many dislike, can stay in the air at extremely low speed, allowing any pursuit to be dropped from the tail just by turning and slowing down. A severely underrated airplane.

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Wait until you reach 110 shots left in your 20mm cannon bell…

Maybe you dont have the FW on Normany. Who knows. I mean you also said in July that you dont see any bugs with it. Huh.

Fly the Russian Fighter, the first one they get, breaks 600 no problem without going 105 even… Can fly pass a ME-410 like its nothing, reach 2000m height like its nothing.

.>being the first that asked for the introduction of the plane
.> Made several bug reports about it
.>still use it in the main line up

you tell me ?
:woman_shrugging:

ping it.

show me where.

I’m quite confident that you are wrong, and putting words in my mouth that I never said.

Ah yeah. Switching it quickly into the lineup I see.

Because huh, what is that? Oh… You don’t have your team upgraded at all? Slot is locked? You play with it in such a small line-up? Are you sure?

Lets see, I barely play this Shitplane, and yet:

Just to put this conversation back on track, I took some video comparison between my BF109-G6 and Freelook (screen Joystick mode on ps5) and the same video for the FW.

@Keofox hope the devs could look into this mate.

BF109 G6 Premium fully upg:

FW190 - not upg, rank 3 though:

I bought the premium plane as I wanted to change from using premium panzer M and have more air CAS support, I didn’t want to lose my XP bonus, so yes bought the same plane as in campaign, not ideal but I can afford it.

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if there is one thing that i hate about people like you, is that they make up shit based on assumption.
( and guess what, your assumptions are wrong :upside_down_face: )

try better with something else.

perhaps next time you’ll be lucky.

yes?
because guess what.
i’ve just unlocked those squad recently?






and i still have to upgrade them?

oh, “”“i’m Sorry”""
if i don’t play this game all day and i don’t have premium.

you know why?

i got a job. a real one.

so… that’s the reason why half of my squads are not upgraded.

do you have any other valid arguments, or are you just clowning around.

perhaps hit me up when you’re done.

P.S.

the plane is far from shite, it has only a few stability ( and cannon ) issues .
but i can controll it, and is capable to strike down opponents.
wanna me showing you how to play it for an entire match?
so far i’m loving it.
but it needs some fixes of course

Please stop squabbling and keep this conversation on track, it is about the FW not your petty argument and proof of who’s dick is bigger!

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I think there is a problem with the fw190 its slow its turn super fast but absolutely cant go up or down thus cant turn or climb up after a dive…

Its a boom and zoom plane that can do neither…

Its gun just dont seem to register hits… multiple 20mm impact on engine and cockpit ennemies fly fine take 2x7.7 to the cockpit or engine FW190 is dead.

Its require or a decent flight model or wepaons that register hits better.

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After doing research, I found out the FW had a very quick roll rate and had hydraulic controls, which made it much easier for pilot to without having to manually force plane to maneuver.

Also now I have changed freelook, it is less wobbly too, on ps5 default mean I was rolling at the same time.

The model is the same as WT I think, a few tweaks to model might be required, but it was more my freelook and not knowing about roll rate which is accurate.

I’m not changing my mind but not seeing this as desperately needing fixing now. Maybe cannons could be looked at across the board.

I just got the FW190 its kind of meh…