Hello my fellow Enlisted players, pilots and compatriots. Today I would like to present a suggestion to change a problem which has been told to me as a design rather than a bug.
The FW-190 series of planes have a left leaning control issue. While flying straight and true, the plane rolls to the left and yaws to the left (yaws slightly, it mostly rolls) and it causes me and a few others to have a difficult time flying these planes.
I personally didn’t know that this issue could be considered and corrected. I thought this was a natural feature of the planes in real life.
My suggestion is that this weird behavior of these series of planes be removed and corrected to flying straight and true with slight pull downwards (natural gravity etc).
As it currently flys in game, I lose control of my plane and the entire flight of the aircraft is erratic and chaotic. It’s NEARLY impossible to correct the corkscrew descent to my inevitable death and crash. I believe this is caused by this left lean predicament.
My second suggestion is that of the turn time. The FW-190 planes have a 19.00-19.9 second turn time in game. The average BF109 is around 16 seconds. I understand that 3 seconds of turn time will NOT make the planes handle too much differently, but in every situation where the planes either lose control or I am in a dogfight/shooting down enemy bombers (AI bombers) I feel that I am turning so slow and there is no benefit or counter for my plane to be able to do legitimate maneuvers.
Here is a clip of my issue of the first suggestion:
Thank you for reading, I hope to have some discussions and feedback!
Have a wonderful day!
-Missingmayhem13
Totally agree,both of those factors make these planes just terrible for the roles they were made to fill,only like 2 US planes turn slower than the FWs,and they are heavy bombers.
https://aerospaceweb.org/question/dynamics/q0015a.shtml
The lean is a natural feature, it won’t be removed as it is a part of simulation. You either have to learn to correct it, or learn to use the trim to avoid most of it.
Don’t really care about this
I’ll be slightly offset in the dive
But I prefer G2
His rockets can directly snipe M26 and Big Mac at an altitude of 500 meters.
I haven’t noticed this myself. I guess that maybe it’s possible I just unconsciously make up for that sideways drift with not thought on it at all. Or maybe you have some hardware spooking you and the specifics of this plane make is all the more noticeable? I don’t know, though. It is a difficult plane to fly as it’s an interceptor and not a fighter. So it kind of is designed for this sort of handling. So it will have a very good climb rate and stuff like that, instead of great agility and handling.
The most peculiar about the FW-190 aircrafts, that all FW-190 suffer from this bug, except the D-9 which is premium.
I can’t comprehend why DF doesn’t fix the TT FWs.
Its especially problematic since Germany’s top aircraft, the Focke-Wulf 190 D-12 is an attacker aircraft but the bug makes it painfully difficult to deliver precise support onto the battlefield.
While the bug is manageable with fighters, no amount of skill or experience can help the D-12 which desperately needs this bug fixed.
Yes, these values are about historically accurate.
The 109 turned much faster than the 190 because they were designed by different doctrines.
The FW-190 has to rely on speed and fire power rather than maneuverabality, it is a superb diver and roller btw, be sure to use those to your advantage and never forget that you gain altitude faster than your enemy.
Kurt Tank the designer who was also one of the most talented pilots of the world said that the bf-109 is a race horse, while the FW-190 is a warhorse, the 109 was designed by strapping the biggest possible engine to the smallest frame (same as P-51, Spitfire and Yak series).
But the FW-190 wasn’t fragile, designed to take a lot of punishment and still return to base, I would like to see this survivability manifest in Enlisted as well, the FW-190 should be capable of taking as much punishment as IL-2 or P-47.
I’m very good at flying the plane, I’ve already gotten used to the lean. My issue is that the plane will lose control and go into an absolute free fall because of (unknown).
The FW190 planes are the only ones that do this. Most of the planes have a lean, the BF109G-6 has a slight lean and it does not start to flip itself over and crash.
The D-12 is an absolute hero of a plane.
I have tons of clips with lots of kills and CAS support.
If the turn time won’t be adjusted, it needs to be addressed that the plane will lose control. (Not all of the time) but I took this clip in the post because it was so random and unprovoked. If I could control the plane while this happens, I wouldn’t have made the post. DF needs to check it out lol.
If you want a bad flying Fw then try the gold order D-12 JV44.
Totally bugged.
The regular research tree version D-12 is less bad but still not good.
Only good one is the premium D-9.
Which I dont own.
I was carving left, and it jolts to the right, the left and then spins. I couldn’t have stalled it because I wasn’t at that steep of an angle for long. My TAS wasn’t low enough to cause a stall out.
IDK, but in Il-2, a game 20 years old, it behaves similarly, though somewhat muted, compared to Dagor flight engine, probably a quirk of Arcade plane physics. Still, though, that’s nothing exclusive to the 190s, so even if we do a fix, they will still be an outlier.
The “instructor” is what help you control the plane with a mouse and prevent stuff like, simple stalls the 90% of the time. That is how it works in WT, and this game use the same system. How the Instructor Works - War Thunder Wiki
Perhaps that is why we disagreed about the D-12.
I’m on PC and there the gold order JV44 is actually worse than the regular D-12, which is also not good.
