Full Chinese Faction Tech Tree Unique Firearms Concept! (No copy paste!)

Hello comrades!

I researched chinese manufactured firearms and surprisingly, there are way enough guns to fill a tech tree from BR I to III without any copy paste at all.
(in addition to the “add china as a BR I-III faction” posts)

I dont know much chinese, but i really tried my best for hours to find out at much and as accurate as possible:

And since all factions have a little amount of copy pasted weapons, if we would add just a little to china as well, it would polish the last little remaining balancing of machineguns historically accurate:

ZB-26 BR: II

DP-27 BR: III

But even without those two, it would be a huge amount of new weapons which would fill all BRs.

With having chinese uniforms, voice lines and ethnic faces already ingame, there is not much work left for a chinese faction. :upside_down_face:

(i really want china now…)

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we already spoke about it, the devs don’t plan add more factions in the game for now in looooooooooong terms, so let it go, we asked for italy,brits,baggetes and nothing, don’t be desilusional about it

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Its only a suggestion. Maybe useful in other ways, like adding subfactions for example… or just weapons for event squads.

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I noticed i forgot the Sichuan smg, this one should be in it as well:

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And theres a funny thing

Its knowed who chinese thomsons are low quality maded, so, therea no control of weapon RoF, so, we can have same thomson model whit better rof

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Let me give you some small suggestions. Han Yang 1888 would be more suitable as the initial weapon :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

You did a great job!

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Unfortunately, DF is currently working on Soviet-Japanese battlefield, so the Chinese camp will probably have to wait for quite a while.

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The biggest problem for China would be that they would only be fighting the vastly smaller (by player population) Japan which is already busy queuing against the massive US playerbase. As interesting as the faction and theater could be, it would be treated as a sideshow that most players wouldn’t see.

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I think if we would have another battlefield with japan against china, japan would also get some new content making them more attractive to play i think?

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Some, sure. But they would still be dwarfed by the US which is also queuing against Japan.

yeah,before DF finishing the soviet VS Japan,I guess it will not pubulish new battle.
But we can have a discussion.

Great work! Just some suggestions here

The Thompson 7.62mm conversion in the photo is a post-war (post-civil war even…) conversion, so it does not fit the time frame of the game.

The best br2 Thompson candidate is still the Sichuan Arsenal 7.63mm Thompson, these guns can use bayonets instead of bipods if you don’t want them to be exactly the same.

The Mukden SMG is a tricky one because we don’t know exactly when they were made, some theories suggest they were made after WW2 using captured Japanese Type 1 SMG production lines and parts in Mukden. While others suggest they could be made during WW2 by smaller gun workshops, similar to the Sichuan SMGs. The designs shown on the surviving examples of Mukdens vary A LOT, some of them show design elements from Thompson, which were popular among those small-scale productions. Also, the Chinese collaborators of imperial Japan were notorious for stealing and selling Japanese industrial materials, weapon parts, supplies, etc. Which could explain some Type 1 elements on the gun.

The type 67 grenade is also a post-war model… the WW2 versions of Stielhandgranate were simply called Bingshi (means handle grenade) or Type (insert_factory_name_here) grenade, the most common being Type Gong. Stielhandgranate produced by different factories (under different warlords’ control) has small differences in size, material, and explosive mix, therefore the second naming method was sometimes used.

They also use a type of impact grenade called Mawei (horsetail)

Tsing Dao Type 17, and other SMGs based on Bergmann’s design made by the Chinese, all use 7.63mm Mauser ammunition and usually use either 30-round or 50-round mags. (the 50-round mag was also quite common)

So similar to SIG 1920, this type of gun can also be BR3 when using 50-round mags.

9mm Para MP-28 was only exported to China in very small quantities, some used by the German-trained divisions of the NRA.

The Type 14 rifles… I think you mean Type 1 and Type 4 rifles? Those were not called Zhongzheng though, Type Zhongzheng is just what the Chinese call the Type 24 Chiang Kai-shek Rifles.

As for the rifle grenades, as far as I know, the Chinese do not have AT rifle grenades for the Type 28 launcher. However, there is a type of white phosphorus rifle grenade used by the Chinese, that could be an interesting addition to the game.

As for the “copy-paste” guns, ZB-26 is definitely an iconic choice, Chinese also use a variant with a light tripod and 30-round mag, which could also be added to the game.

For the BR3, I think KE7 is a better choice, it’s more common compared to DP. There can be some small differences in detail comparing to the one on the Japanese tech tree (Which represents the ones exported to Japan for testing I guess) Those made by or exported to the Chinese were chambered in 7.92 Mauser. Also, the ones made by Sichuan Arsenal use MP18-style barrel jackets.

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I’m extremely grateful for your efforts. If the DF is willing to search, they are surely able to find far more weapons and equipment than we can imagine. I’ve never doubted their capabilities in this regard. However, currently, they don’t take steps to supplement the weapons that the current camp lacks, or they just use a copy - paste method to make up for them. What I mean by “copy - paste” is solely for the benefit of the DF.

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I’d rather have this

Allied skins

US
UK
France (only in Normandy and Africa)
Poland (only in Normandy)
Australia
Canada
KMT (only in mainland campaign)

Axis skins

Germany
Italy
Hungaria (only in Eastern Front)
Romania (only in Eastern Front)
Finland (only in Eastern Front)
Vichy France (only in Normandy and Africa)

Comintern skins
USSR
Poland (only in Eastern Front)
CCP (only in mainland campaign)

Japan skins

Japan
Manchukuo (only in mainland campaign)

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I don’t think this is enough content for a standalone nation, however it would be great if integrated into the US techtree as foldered contents.

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I have long believed that the first numbers of all Chinese squads should be armed with this. I just haven’t found a convenient opportunity to express this idea.

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It is also worth mentioning that China has bought quite a few Swiss weapons. Some of them are already in the Japanese tech tree.

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i love this tbh

Move all Chinese squads to the Chinese faction!

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all two squads
move both squads to the Chinese faction, see i fixed it

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