Fronts system + time periods for Eastern, Western and Far-Eastern fronts

With the new progression system announced that could possibly delete the old campaign system through merging into a single pool that’s actually concerning for various reasons such as Axis players possibly not having an option to pick which theater of the war between Eastern and Western front incase an Axis player doesn’t want or not in the mood to face either Soviet SMGs and tanks or American planes or those that want to play early war instead of late war.

My suggestion is to have checkboxes on which campaign a player wants to play with 3 theaters of war then within it options with early, mid and late war while players that want to play any campaign can just check all campaigns and time periods in the options.

For Eastern Front:
Early war - 1941-February 1943(Stalingrad)
Mid war - After Battle of Stalingrad to end of 1943
Late war - 1944-1945(Everything covered including Berlin)

Western Front:
Early - North Africa and Italy
Late - Normandy, Hurtgen, Battle of the Bulge up to the end

Far-East
Early - Possibly 30s Manchuria and China, Khalkin Gol, Lake Khasan up to the fall of the Philippines(Bataan)
Mid - Midway, Makin, Guadalcanal, etc
Late - 2nd half of Philippines campaign, Iwo Jima, Okinawa and even Manchuria, Sakhalin and Kuril islands.

Sure there are problems in equipment where there are certain weapons and vehicles that were only introduced in certain time periods or battles like PPS-42 was never used in Moscow, Tiger H1 in later parts of North Africa campaign, IS-2 obr 1944 introduced in late 1944, Kriegsmodell and various Volkssturm guns introduced in 1945, etc.

Also allow presets for each period especially vehicles since Soviets didn’t change much in small arms from early to late with some additions like DPM and PPS-43 since the significant difference for them being vehicles(From T-34-76s and KVs to T-34-85s and IS-2s) also Germans using guns like MP40 and MG34 in all campaigns involving them even though they have different vehicles on the later parts of the war compared to early war ones.

I have to suggest this with the potential variety of issues that’s going to be created by the new progression system like Battle Pass missions asking the player to play a battle in a certain campaign for a number of times alongside future event missions involving playing certain campaigns like the most recent being the Stalingrad event making players do tasks in Stalingrad campaign only.

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I sure hope the devs throw out the idea of whatever gear on whatever map.

This opens up the road to any nation on any map which means the game becomes like Call of Duty and we don’t want this.

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Even though T-34-85 and IS-2 are my favorite tanks, I dont want to drive them in Moscow or Stalingrad because those vehicles dont fit the timeline of the battle.

The real stupid thing is something like Kriegsmodell in Moscow. I have said in the announcement thread that this new system could potentially kill campaigns like Moscow and Stalingrad as people would use their Berlin loadouts all the time whatever Eastern Front map that is not minding the timeline of the battle.

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just some corrections:

western front:
early: invasion of france and low countries
late: normandy+

african front:
early: western desert campaign (operazion E, operation compass, tobruk (capture and siege), operation sonnenblume)
mid: western desert campaign 2 (battle of gazala, fall of tobruk, first and second el alamein and rest of battles till the end of western desert campaigns), operation torch and tunisian campaign

southern mediterranean front (includes italian campaign, invasion of southern france):
mid: invasion of sicily, invasion of italy, battle for the bernhardt line
late: rest of the italy invasion that is 1944+ (like battle for monte casino, battle of anzio and northern italy invasion), invasion of southern france

i would include invasion of balkans as early southern mediterranean campaign and liberation of balkans as late, but cause they are minor nation and/or soviet related they are not suitable for there so i guess they would need to go to eastern front?

so what are the problems with this proposal? it over complicates things, doesnt solve historical accuracy and doesnt solve equipment imbalance.
at least BR MM system solves equipment imbalance and provides better historical accuracy if you limit campaigns to certain BR (not perfect, but could be tweaked)

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We dont need that
Timeline filter is enough

Let say they stick to their concept 100 %. Which is kinda dull and need revamps.

I think a timeline filter will work many problems out (not all ofc).

Imagine Allies vs Axis matchups.

Low level BR match ups - > send these 20 players to all maps (Moscow, Stalingrad and Berlin).
High level match ups - > send this group only to Berlin.

If MM fails to deliver and one of 20 players have high level BR (and tanks like Tiger II or IS 2) - > send them only to Berlin.

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