FNAB-43 fire rate buff and move to BR3

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Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,

The FNAB-43 was Italy´s Mp3008, a simplified gun easier to produce however this was still an expensive and time consuming submachine gun to make, just cheaper than the standard Beretta 38 and 38/42 submachine guns.
With only 7000 submachine guns made, it is a very rare weapon to come across.

Currently the FNAB-43 fires 400 rounds per minute in game, this is based on old books (25-50 years old) that mostly quoted each other and cover multiple guns instead of just one in great detail. (such as The Encyclopedia of Infantry Weapons of World War II by Ian Hogg)
While it’s true that the guns did not change, calculating fire rate has never been easier than today.

Relatively recently, in 2022 an article was published on L.A.I. Publications focused solely on the FNAB-43, I highly recommend reading the site for anyone interested in Italian submachine guns.
Unlike other sources, this is fully original and the author had acquired a genuine FNAB-43, examined the firearm than tested it at the range himself:

After examining the gun mechanism and measuring the fire rate, it was found that the FNAB-43 fires 837 rounds per minute with modern 9mm (which might have slightly increased the fire rate, ~5-10 rounds difference at best).

Here is that part of the article:

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full article here

https://www.laipublications.com/en/livre/les-pistolet-mitrailleurs-italien-des-deux-guerre-mondiales-recueil-darticles/the-italian-fnab-43-submachine-gun/

Why were previous sources so off? Well back in the day, fire rate had to be calculated which was very time consuming and difficult while today this can be measured with machines thus getting much more accurate results much quicker.
Most likely the 400 rpm claim originates from someone who had never fired the gun, that false information was then repeated over and over again.

Trustworth?
It was fired from an original FNAB-43, there is hardly better evidence.

Conclusion
It’s clear that historically the FNAB-43 fired about 800 rounds per minute thus its in game fire rate needs to be increased to 800 rpm and moved to BR3 to match the power of similar submachine guns such as Type 100 (late) and Ppsh41 (stick mag).

Thank you for your time and attention!

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Solid suggestion, support :clap:

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Dislike button where?

Stop trying to change this unique weapon. There plenty of weapons with high rof.

I definitely do not want my premium fnab to be changed in such significant way. That’s not what I have paid for.

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Why BR III is better BR then BR II for Germany ? This is a buff to the squad not a nerf so you get more value for your money.

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I dont want to powercreep BR2, in my opinion we should maximise the power of tech tree SMGs with Pps-42 and Lanchester SMG.
So about 600 rpm max for submachine gun unless there is a flaw that makes it less desirable such as top loaded magazine (OVP1918 or Owen SMG) or low damage (obrez ppsh).

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Speak for yourself.

There’s no Italy BR3 lineup.

It is pseudo buff for the sake of minimaxers that are increasingly ruining the game.

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Simple answer: the allies liked to downplay the axis powers and the sophistication of their weaponry, and is really just a common trait for the winning side throughout history.

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No, it is not.

Fnab’s sights are so much comfortable + bigger mag is source of longer sustained fire.

The weapons are not comparable. And you just want to ruin the weapon.

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TBH, i think it would be neat to just lower the FNAB’s dispersion to make it accurate, thus making it still unique

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All they need to do is put the G.55 to BR III and problem solved for me :smiley:

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It’s realistic though. There’s always the M1 Berretta or the m38/42 you can replace the FNAB with. Both have 40 rounds, better accuracy, higher damage, and still shoot on the slower side (emphasis on side).

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Which one of them has 400 rof?

Realistically I can’t :man_shrugging:

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Im talking about the design here, it was perceived as a cheaper alternative to the big chunky MAB38 and 38/42 submachine guns that needed a lot of high quality material.

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You do realise that @Valkay was speaking about the historical situation in which the guns were designed and manufactured, and not gameplay characteristics?

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In all reality, it actually cost more because it used milling instead of stamped sheet metal.

The m38/42 was cheaper in the end.

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known:

stamped sheet production was not yet adopted in Italy so it was decided that they will not start experimenting with that technology since they needed guns fast.

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Yeah, because it is completely irrelevant to gameplay elements.

I guess I have to get used to the fact similar wall of text suggestion always have plenty of meaningless sentences copypasted somewhere from Internet.

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cmon guys, the FNAB’s is special, just make it accurate to actually be unique to all other smgs. We already have enough of the high rpm smgs, better to focus on its strengths and uniqueness so it wont be another brrrrrttttt smg

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But 400 rpm is just too slow.. I’ve suggested a buff between 450 and 480 rpm, so it still shoots far slower than it’s contemporaries, but is a nice little dps boost as well while keeping character. The accuracy buff on top of this would make a world of difference.

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You’re in a forum about a game set in a historical setting, if you not expected not to see autists dump walls of text of historical information your expentations were unrealstic to begin with.

If you don’t appreciate them; don’t read them, and don’t engage with them, and certainly don’t create needless, unnessesary and unprompted arguments over nothing anyone is even arguing about.

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