Fixing the desertion problem

As just about everyone can tell by now, the problem of chronic desertion among a large chunk of the player base has not been solved by the 20% xp penalty. Though an admirable attempt, it hasn’t solved anything and has only punished the players that it should not be punishing. So instead here are a few ways I think could help with the problem.

  1. Make desertions count as losses - I know that there are a lot of people who will leave at the first sign of problem with a game because they want to keep their win rate artificially high. They will desert their team and rejoin different matches so they can keep winning against much worse teams to keep their egos inflated. Now if they want to desert, they’re gonna be stuck with the loss they oh so desperately wanted to avoid.

  2. Better Social Features - In my experience with this game and several others, the best way to play the game is with other people. Unfortunately, Enlisted doesn’t have a way to actually do that in the game. I propose that there should be a tab with a similar structure to the custom game tab where people can make their own posts to look for teammates to squad up with. It would add a much welcome social aspect to the game as well as alleviating a bit of pressure on players who enjoy being able to communicate with teammates.

  3. Joining Matches in Progress - The main reason desertions are a problem is because those teammates are replaced by bots, who are more often than not worse performing than the teammate who left. I suggest that there should be an option to allow players to join matches already in progress for an xp reward, very similarly to the join any option for factions. Considering a match could already be half way done by the time you’d join, I think the xp boost should be at least 50%.

And as a precaution to avoid people from switching join matches in progress on and deserting until they get matches that just started just so they can get a free 50% xp booster: If you turn on this option and desert a match, then you lose the xp booster for 3 matches. I think that’s fair.

Anyways, I think these could help. They definitely won’t entirely solve the issue, but they should help.

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Love the first idea

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This should always be the case btw, adding +1 lose and not giving any experience is enough already… instead of punishing people for the next matches

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If I’m being honest, the other 2 suggestions would help with the desertion problem but I just think they’d be good additions to have in general.

But in terms of fixing the desertion problem I think giving a loss and 0 xp for a desertion is the quickest and easiest way to help with the problem

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I think there should be a streak benefit (think of daily login) which gives you periodical rewards after a number of games when you are not deserting

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It always should’ve been like this, at the very least deserted matches should have impacted winrates depending on the end result, but this would be ideal.

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Maybe for join any matches since these mostly send you in factions that are underpopulated.

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Won’t help IMOP until the actual reason people are deserting is addressed, and in all honesty, a lot of people just don’t care, so no penalty short of suspension or banning will persuade them if they are set on deserting. As I have said many times, suspension or banning only hurt the player base, so non starter there.

End the ranking system.
End the win loss percentage. (Win loss percentages are far from accurate anyway)
Allow solo players to choose to play against other solo players which should lower stacked group seal clubbings of solo players.
Eliminate ALL rewards from those who desert, no silver, no experience, no tech tree research progress, you desert, you get nothing.

By removing the win/loss percentage and the ranking system, you remove two reasons for those people who desert to protect them, and by allowing players to opt to only play other solo players, this will cut down on group seal clubbings, more competitive games, less desertions. There is no way to end desertions, as some are always going to do it.

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They also need to fix map picking, I don’t really care about my stats and i’m at like 50-60% win rate. I just leave when I get a map that i know I won’t have any fun playinh on.

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I would suggest a incentive to stay in the match instead of more penalties because as other people have been saying they lose connection or something happens that is outside of their control so by rewarding the losing team with more silver or more exp but still less than the victory bonus so it wouldnt matter if they lost or won since stats dont matter in this game ( causal game unlike call of duty ) an they’re still progressing through the tech tree.

Another suggestion would be giving the players the 20% bonus that the deserted got for every desertion in their team regardless of win or loss since players that are leaving match dont care about the loot while people that are staying need it or wants it more.

It would be way better to remove the feature of joining a late battle unless opted into it because I personally don’t want to join the shit show of a match that already started for a few minutes where the enemy team is already pushing into the objective while im still waiting for the timer to count down or the other way around where the enemy already fortified the point or tanks are already watching choke points.

remove stats like win loss ratio or added a desertion counter right between the win percentage and K/D ratio so people can’t post screenshots without showing it

desertion is going to stay in the game regardless of what they do because its a casual game and stuff always happens also they can remove the option to leave a match lol

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this would reward players for staying any maybe give free exp boosters, silver, and maybe 1 day of premium time for staying but there should also increase the afk timer so people can’t just give up and stay in the match causing their team to lose faster. It can go for every 10 matches played – every 10 games exp booster --every 5 games 2k silver --every 50 games played 1 day of premium and maybe the every 5 matches play can rotate between silver and orders just like the repeatable BP tasks

There you already have a bonus - which imo means rather that in those matches you should rather be punished harder for quitting than in random queue :smiley:

Another rage post about loosing a game.

  • Fix the unbalanced games?

  • Fix the farming kills vehicles?

  • Fix the bots with no IA?

  • Fix de OP jets?

  • Fix joining in already lost games?

No, lets punish the deserters.

Right now, a simple example.

8 minutes.

I could even get in the cap. I had no time.

3 vehicle players farming kills, not defending. Of course, in top. But they could get high score because… The game lasted 8 minutes.

And these angry kids crying because they had deserters in their teams?

I’m soooo sorry, I didn’t know that just because you suck at the game means I can’t make suggestions on how to make the game better.

I’ve made suggestions recently about how to rework the vehicle system because I do see it as problematic and I think this game would be better if there was a score requirement in front of spawning in vehicles.

But just cause YOU have a bad game doesn’t mean that there aren’t other pressing issues that require solutions.

Grow up, kid.

Stop crying and maybe I will