The soviet assaulter squad is NKVD already.
Oh dam, then let me shoot the useless players on my team
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I think women implemented in a true-to-history manner could make for good advertisement for the game.
Itās usually either no women or too many women, seeing it done right would be cool.
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and with the size of battles it always will be unless one is a special event reward.
I strongly recommend to you watch this
Especially part about āblocking detachmentsā
And this about (not frontline combatants)
https://forum.enlisted.net/t/myths-about-war-war-on-myths/3627/17?u=557779
Maybe after that some myths about these themes will pass away for you
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I brought up them shooting deserters because it is a aspect of the red army that is over exaggerated. Similar to how Pvt_Decard is over exaggerating then number of woman in front line combat during the battle of Moscow. If one aspect of the red army is going to be over exaggerated, why not another?
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Could you give a quote (link to the post) of Pvt_Decard, where he exaggerates the number of women in the Battle of Moscow? I do not remember he saying something like this.
āthere was millions. 1.7 million of women in soviet armyā
This statement was used as a reason why there should be female soldiers in Enlisted. While Iām sure there where some, I doubt 1 in 30 soldiers in front line combat where women like he is implying. You might as well add blocking detachments, Iām not sure how many where at the battle of Moscow but I wouldnāt be surprised if they where just as common as woman in from line combat
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It is assumed that a total of 1.7 million was be taken. As the total number of all women who passed the draft lists from 1941 to 1945. I think Deckard will clarify. But about the order of magnitude, he is definitely not wrong. In fact, about one to two million.
About historicaly representative things in the game, I will answer as follows: if the developers added the Chauchat machine gun to soviets squad then adding womens snipers or pilots in soviet squad is not exeption or something wird. Cause it realy historicaly accurate.
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Donāt watch folse Hollywood movies. Better read some documents, biography and history books before making such statement.
Women-pilots fight with enemy at night and of course they fly over the enemy. Almost all of them were die during Great patriotic war.
And even though you tell less amount of them comparing to a man soldiers.
Man, wake up. Most weapons we play here is 0,0001 percent of all amount of arms in 1941
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As I said in the first post I made on this thread, rare and prototype guns change gameplay, woman do not.
So how different skins of soldiers change gameplay in different divisions? Why we have so many skins of same type of riflemans, submachine gunners. We can dress them all as one soldier.
They donāt, if DarkFlow made them all look the same I wouldnāt care. The only necessary part is to make sure enemies donāt look like allies. If youāre asking why DarkFlow is giving them unique outfits, youād have to ask them but I assume its to sell the gameās āhistorical accuracyā (which there isnāt much of; Russians running around with Chauchats). And no, adding woman dose not make it more historically accuracy, Iād put in the same camp as adding the Chauchat, its really only a meme.
I donāt see a purpose to argue.
Pretty sure they will be added.
Two reason people donāt want female characters.
Sexism or bad history knowledge
Not necessary to look docs or books.
Just check wiki will be enough to understand my statement
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If you donāt care, Darkflow takes care of the variety of skins. And I and most of the players are in favor of a variety of appearances, but not as absurdly as in the Battlefield. The example with the French machine gun I led not to the fact that this is not true, but to the fact that it is a very rare machine gun, but it was really used by the Red Army near Moscow. There are no contradictions here.
Canāt counter my argument, just claim sexism.
I compared the two (female soldiers and the Chauchat) because while Iām sure both where on the front lines, they where not common. People find it quite ridicules that the Chauchat was added already, people will also find it ridicules if they add women into the mix as well. At least the Chauchat adds something to the game, a new gun for the soviets that functions different then the ones currently in game. If the female soldiers functioned any different people would hate it (realistically they would often have worse stats).
As I said in my first post of this thread, when the game is open to the public they could do some event where you get a lady soldier/pilot/tanker for womanās day so everyone can talk about how great they are and not annoy the history snobs. Adding them to the pool of soldiers you can randomly get would make them far too common for the game to retain the historically accurate tag (also I really donāt want to see what the girls of Enlistedās uncanny valley look like).
Wikipedia is not a primary source as it can be edited by anyone. And even then neither of your sources help you confirm the amount of frontline female combatants.
No matter how you spin your story, the actual front line combatants consisted out of less than 1% of women. Implementing more than a singular woman as special twitch drop or something would be too many women if it comes to historical accuracy (1/21 per player is already more than the <1%). And if you are only going to be implementing 1, you might as well implement 0 to save all of the money related to making a different model (1000$+), hiring voice actors for that one soldier (200$+), coding a system for using a specific model instead of a randomized one for soldiers (100$+), and more.
Saying that itās either bad knowledge or sexism shows that you have bad knowledge about game development as a whole, and prefer calling people sexist over coming up with actual valid arguments, instead of arguments that completely skew data in benefit of your point of view.
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