Pre-WW1 prototype, never adopted or used in WW1, let alone WW2.
In the game it goes to tech tree, not even event or premium.
In-game stats seem to make it one of, if not the best SLR of BR2, and as some claim, even better than certain BR3 SLRs.
BR2 Germany players who mostly play Kar 98k and MP-40 (like myself) now get to face Fedorov and Uragan 24/7 (not to mention removal of Pz III N).
Using BR2 bolt actions like Mosin or Winchester literally makes no sense now.
Did anyone unironically think USSR BR2 was so imbalanced and weak before, other than traditional Ru-forum whining “give Soviet BR2 SLR, give Soviet BR5 strong tank, etc”?
Am I missing something? How is this a good addition?
(Disclaimer: I don’t “main” any faction or care about that, so pls no “X faction suffers” derail)
Why? Because Russian forum was crying over having a semi auto there, PTRS 41 was good enough for that purpose in my opinion. And shame because gold order spent on KB-P-135 feels like a waste now.
Dont get me wrong as I love the new rifle and the look of it, but it certainly shouldn’t be a TT weapon
The meta has changed, 3rd rating is more interesting and promising. Therefore, the appearance of a new rifle is not so important. SVT38 is a universal and the strongest rifle at its levels, through the build 3 to 9. I only hope for the improvement of the gever41
Fedorov 1912 is certainly better than Type Otsu which was BR3 just a few days ago and in my opinion its also better than G41.
Tokarev´s Mosin-Nagant semi-auto conversion would have been slightly better than a pre-ww1 rifle for sure.
It is what it is now, the game going full fantasy at this point.
The biggest issue was that there were no non-gold order second gun options for radio operators that were interesting. Also, no-non premium semi autos for daily challenges.
I personally would have thought SKS would haveen a better fit, but thinking that ATR is a valid substitute is just silly.
The need was clear and no real reason why soviets should be the only faction at br2 without a TT semi.
agree, though making the Soviet much better than other tech tree semi-auto rifles was a questionable choice.
There are BR2 semi auto event, premium and BP guns with more than 14.0 damage, but those are limited in number while tech tree guns can be spammed 3x9 so at the very least, a damage nerf is in order for this rifle, 13.8 damage IMO would be fair for this pre-ww1 rifle considering:
Armaguerra: 13.6 damage
Type Hei and Type Otsu: 13.9 damage
M1 carbine: 8.8 damage
I haven’t tried the rifle so don’t know how the handling compares to the others. Agree that in general no need for ussr to have an op rifle, that’s why i proposed the sks anyway - however the rifle power is the result of more than just raw damage comparison.
Honestly, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
It’s ok for faction X to not have weapon type Y on BR Z.
Like the Japanese don’t have a high caliber mortar, the Soviets don’t have an event APC, the Americans/Japanese don’t have a big ass bomber like Ju-188 or Tu-2.
And Soviet BR2 has probably been the strongest one with PPS, Winchester, T-28E, P40 and flexible paras.
At the same time, even if the Soviets desperately needed a BR2 SLR, I believe:
It could have been something from WW2 like a nerfed SVT-38, while SVT-40 would get a lighter nerf to BR3
It could have been something not so strong and arguably competitive with BAs, like M1 Carbine or Armaguerra are
It could have been something not ancient prototype never used in any war at all
Well, upon a quick google search I see that the Winchester 1866 was never used in WW2, but dark force went back to the Cowboy and Indian days for it. I do love it though, especially since the Allies had nothing at level one that would shoot semi auto, but the reload time takes forever, so it’s ten shots and your dead trying to reload.
Cuz soviets need to be overpowered and have most perfect fantasy weapons across all BRs, soon they will get Fedorov MG at BR2 with fantasy stats that will be superior to irl counterpart plus also give them bipod because why no?
I know you’re a consistent HA purist so I respect that, on my part also would have preferred we stay on that path but that’s done now.
It’s ok for faction X to not have weapon type Y on BR Z.
Generally yes, if it’s for a good reason - eg. we put in stuff which is completely unrealistic, however that’s not a reason to keep things imbalanced for no reason.
I think the lack of SLR for BR 2 USSR is a big issue though due to the shit game design. Double weapon slot was basically useless for radio operators and riflemen, because of how all USSR rifles share the same ammo pool + no non-GO options for any different weapon. This of course comes from bad game design, but 0 good reason why this should be the case.
But it needed to be fixed and semi auto was a great way to do it.
I disagree. If squad has special powers, then balance is important. That’s +100% available squads for a FTP player of the apc type. Big difference with no good excuse.
